Wandering Off Topic

[Wonderfulspam]

If I lived in the states (Man or Woman) I'd always carry a gun, at home, outside, pretty much anywhere, I'd have a holstered concealed pistol.  I'd get plenty of training, & I'd practice.

If the bad guy can carry a gun, then you need to level the playing field.

If a guy tried to rape, rob, or assault me, I'd gladly exercise my lawful right to self defence, thankyou kindly.

[jassi]

OK until someone else with a gun decides you might be the bad guy and shoots first   

[Vertigo Swirl]

Imagine living in a society where the prospect of killing or being killed was at the forefront of your mind every morning when you got ready to go out to. work, to school, to shop, to fetch the kids, to go to the cinema, to have a romantic dimner with a date.  It’s not for me thanks, very grateful to live in the UK despite its many other problems.

[Wonderfulspam]

OK until someone else with a gun decides you might be the bad guy and shoots first   

You'd need to be posing some kind of threat to them.

Having a concealed gun isn't enough, reaching for it might be & brandishing the thing definitely would.

An armed society is a polite society, best not to start an argument with the next guy, just incase he's carrying.

[Wonderfulspam]

Imagine living in a society where the prospect of killing or being killed was at the forefront of your mind every morning when you got ready to go out to. work, to school, to shop, to fetch the kids, to go to the cinema, to have a romantic dimner with a date. It’s not for me thanks, very grateful to live in the UK despite its many other problems.

Yeah, just steer clear of the youths with knives in our cities.

[Eleanor]

It isn't the owning of guns that is the problem.  It's the type of guns and the purpose for which they are intended.

The Right to Bear Arms was taken by America from The British Constitution of the time, which in England only applied to The Militia.  America applied it to everyone.  This was a ghastly mistake.  America will have to deal with this one day.

I have only ever handled a gun in the process of training in The Navy and for hunting.   Likewise everyone I know around here.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Best FB comment on thr abortion thing:

I'm not pro-murdering babies.

I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20-week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.

I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.

I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.

I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11-year-old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.

I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.

I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.

I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE number of fetuses.

I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.

I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.

I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.

I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.

You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.

You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted. It's not about which stories you don't agree with. It's about fighting for the women in the stories that you do agree with and the CHOICE that was made.

Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!

Overturning Roe does not stop abortions, it stops SAFE abortions!

Abortion is healthcare.

#roevwade #prochoice #abortion #women #womensrights #mybody #mychoice #mybodymychoice #promedical

[Wonderfulspam]

Best FB comment on thr abortion thing:

I'm not pro-murdering babies.

I'm pro-Becky who found out at her 20-week anatomy scan that the infant she had been so excited to bring into this world had developed without life sustaining organs.

I'm pro-Susan who was sexually assaulted on her way home from work, only to come to the horrific realization that her assailant planted his seed in her when she got a positive pregnancy test result a month later.

I'm pro-Theresa who hemorrhaged due to a placental abruption, causing her parents, spouse, and children to have to make the impossible decision on whether to save her or her unborn child.

I'm pro-little Cathy who had her innocence ripped away from her by someone she should have been able to trust and her 11-year-old body isn't mature enough to bear the consequence of that betrayal.

I'm pro-Melissa who's working two jobs just to make ends meet and has to choose between bringing another child into poverty or feeding the children she already has because her spouse walked out on her.

I'm pro-Brittany who realizes that she is in no way financially, emotionally, or physically able to raise a child.

I'm pro-Emily who went through IVF, ending up with SIX viable implanted eggs requiring selective reduction to ensure the safety of her and a SAFE number of fetuses.

I'm pro-Jessica who is FINALLY getting the strength to get away from her physically abusive spouse only to find out that she is carrying the monster's child.

I'm pro-Vanessa who went into her confirmation appointment after YEARS of trying to conceive only to hear silence where there should be a heartbeat.

I'm pro-Lindsay who lost her virginity in her sophomore year with a broken condom and now has to choose whether to be a teenage mom or just a teenager.

I'm pro-Courtney who just found out she's already 13 weeks along, but the egg never made it out of her fallopian tube so either she terminates the pregnancy or risks dying from internal bleeding.

You can argue and say that I'm pro-choice all you want, but the truth is:
I'm pro-life.
Their lives.
Women's lives.

You don't get to pick and choose which scenarios should be accepted. It's not about which stories you don't agree with. It's about fighting for the women in the stories that you do agree with and the CHOICE that was made.

Women's rights are meant to protect ALL women, regardless of their situation!

Overturning Roe does not stop abortions, it stops SAFE abortions!

Abortion is healthcare.

#roevwade #prochoice #abortion #women #womensrights #mybody #mychoice #mybodymychoice #promedical

Susan should have carried a gun, Brittany & Mellisa should have practiced safer sex, Jessica should have stopped letting her physically abusive partner screw her & got an injunction out against him the moment he ever threatened her.

The statistics are pretty clear, very few abortions are because of defects in the child, the overwhelming majority are lifestyle choices.

Ladies, please, just make better life choices.

<0.5%   Victim of rape
3%   Fetal health problems
4%   Physical health problems
4%   Would interfere with education or career
7%   Not mature enough to raise a child
8%   Don't want to be a single mother
19%   Done having children
23%   Can't afford a baby
25%   Not ready for a child
6%   Other


0.01%   The pregnancy resulted from an incestuous relationship
0.15%   The woman was raped
0.20%   The woman's life was endangered by the pregnancy
0.98%   There was a serious fetal abnormality
1.48%   The woman's physical health was threatened by the pregnancy
1.88%   The woman's psychological health was threatened by the pregnancy
20.4%   The woman aborted for social or economic reasons
74.9%   No reason (elective)

https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

[Wonderfulspam]

There should be some kind of religion or something in which everyone can freely participate, where part of it's practices involve abstaining from sex until you've met a stable partner & later married them, once you've really got to know them & formed a loving relationship.

I suppose that's too much to ask these days.

[Wonderfulspam]

Seriously though, 800,000+ abortions a year in the states, that's a pretty gruesome statistic, considering the mass availability of multiple different forms of contraception these days, only a small number of those abortions would be genuinely medically necessary for the child, or the mother, or as a result of failed contraception.

There's a wider issue at play here, & it's our societies shunning religious practices, morality & ethics & indulging in unrestrained sexual promiscuity instead.

Oh well, hopefully the four horsemen will be here soon & Jesus will come back & sort things out.

[Wonderfulspam]

Anyway, someone had to play Pro-Life devils advocate here & it might as well be me.

But, Ladies, true story.

About 10 years ago female friend of mine got pregnant (not mine), the father obviously wasn't going to be around, she wasn't in any position mentally, financially etc to raise another child, so I persuaded her to have it murdered, although, obviously it was her own decision ultimately, & I even drove her about 90 miles to the clinic & waited outside for her for the several hours it takes.
She got an implant after that & the problem hasn't reoccurred since, so, see, I'm not really a total b........ to women.

[Eleanor]

Anyway, someone had to play Pro-Life devils advocate here & it might as well be me.

But, Ladies, true story.

About 10 years ago female friend of mine got pregnant (not mine), the father obviously wasn't going to be around, she wasn't in any position mentally, financially etc to raise another child, so I persuaded her to have it murdered, although, obviously it was her own decision ultimately, & I even drove her about 90 miles to the clinic & waited outside for her for the several hours it takes.
She got an implant after that & the problem hasn't reoccurred since, so, see, I'm not really a total b........ to women.

Thank you for that slightly more uplifting comment.

[Wonderfulspam]

Thank you for that slightly more uplifting comment.

Yeah, I'm not really totally anti abortion, but I think it should be rare & have limits, & both sexes should be taking strong measures to try to prevent the woman getting pregnant in the first place, if they're not genuinely intent on having a child.

Education & bit of personal restraint needed, but, we've been around long enough as a species that we really should have worked out by now there will more than likely be consequences for sticking it in.

Anyway, yeah, my friend is doing fine now & she knew she made the right choice, her baby might not have enjoyed it much, but some win, some lose in the game we call life.

[Eleanor]

Yeah, I'm not really totally anti abortion, but I think it should be rare & have limits, & both sexes should be taking strong measures to try to prevent the woman getting pregnant in the first place, if they're not genuinely intent on having a child.

Education & bit of personal restraint needed, but, we've been around long enough as a species that we really should have worked out by now there will more than likely be consequences for sticking it in.

Anyway, yeah, my friend is doing fine now & she knew she made the right choice, her baby might not have enjoyed it much, but some win, some lose in the game we call life.

I agree with you up to a point.  And I very much doubt that I could have done it.

[Wonderfulspam]

I agree with you up to a point.  And I very much doubt that I could have done it.

I think as a society we have become desensitised to abortion, it is now couched in language such as 'womens healthcare', we are talking about snuffing a human life here, we don't consider it at all acceptable post 9 months, so we should be very reluctant to do it in the weeks prior really.

I had unprotected one drunken night with a girl when I was in my early twenties, bought her the morning after pill the very next day, get it done quickly, before the problem has much chance to develop.