Wandering Off Topic

[Eleanor]

I think as a society we have become desensitised to abortion, it is now couched in language such as 'womens healthcare', we are talking about snuffing a human life here, we don't consider it at all acceptable post 9 months, so we should be very reluctant to do it in the weeks prior really.

I had unprotected one drunken night with a girl when I was in my early twenties, bought her the morning after pill the very next day, get it done quickly, before the problem has much chance to develop.

It is much more complicated than you seem to realise.

[Vertigo Swirl]

While we’re being simcere and baring our souls, my sister got pregnant by her boyfriend when she was 16-17 - contraceeption fail.   She decided to have a termination which really upset me.  I offered (as a single woman, 10 years her senior) to adopt her baby but she declined and had the termination instead.  The best decision for her (and me) as it turned out, of that I have no doubt whatsoever.

[Wonderfulspam]

It is much more complicated than you seem to realise.

I've watched an ultrasound video of a mid/late term abortion, you can find one on Youtube if you care to look, guarantee it'll make you think!

[Wonderfulspam]

I also knew a guy who, for a time, worked in a clinic, the experience made him quite strongly anti-abortion, strangely enough.

[Eleanor]

I've watched an ultrasound video of a mid/late term abortion, you can find one on Youtube if you care to look, guarantee it'll make you think!

I don't need to think.  It's the right for other women to choose that concerns me.

[Wonderfulspam]

I've watched an ultrasound video of a mid/late term abortion, you can find one on Youtube if you care to look, guarantee it'll make you think!

Bear in mind, I stomached the ISIS execution videos, the African lynching & burnings etc, but, the poor defenceless mite being dismembered was a bit too far for me, I think that may just have been what cemented my opinion.

[Wonderfulspam]

I don't need to think.  It's the right for other women to choose that concerns me.

They still have the right & choice, they might need to travel to a blue state to do it, but they can still get it done, or, the red states might soon turn blue & expand their own abortion rights anyway, in protest at the SC judgement.

[Eleanor]

They still have the right & choice, they might need to travel to a blue state to do it, but they can still get it done, or, the red states might soon turn blue & expand their own abortion rights anyway, in protest at the SC judgement.

I agree.  This American Court Ruling is of little interest to me and a colossal fuss about not very much at all.

Does anyone know why they have done this after all these years?

[Wonderfulspam]

I agree.  This American Court Ruling is of little interest to me and a colossal fuss about not very much at all.

Does anyone know why they have done this after all these years?

Prior to the 2016 election, Trump promised to appoint new SC judges & get Roe vs Wade overturned to win the evangelical Pro Life vote. 6 Republican judges for, vs 3 democrat against voted to overturn, promises made promises kept by Trump.

I haven't yet read the 300 page judgement & actually won't, but individual rights have been returned to states.

This is likely going to come back & bite Republicans very, very strongly in the ass, unless the Red states see sense & set sensible term limits, allow early intervention abortion medication etc, instead of outright bans, but Texas, for example, appears to be going down the outright ban path.

[Eleanor]

Prior to the 2016 election, Trump promised to appoint new SC judges & get Roe vs Wade overturned to win the evangelical Pro Life vote. 6 Republican judges for, vs 3 democrat against voted to overturn, promises made promises kept by Trump.

I haven't yet read the 300 page judgement & actually won't, but individual rights have been returned to states.

This is likely going to come back & bite Republicans very, very strongly in the ass, unless the Red states see sense & set sensible term limits, allow early intervention abortion medication etc, instead of outright bans, but Texas, for example, appears to be going down the outright ban path.

Thank you.

As you say, things will likely sort themselves out shortly.  And people will manage without Texas if necessary.

[Wonderfulspam]

Thank you.

As you say, things will likely sort themselves out shortly. And people will manage without Texas if necessary.

Mid term elections in November, barring a Nuclear attack preventing elections in the states I think the Dems might just be making a few gains.

Oh well, at least I got to enjoy President Trump for 4 years, but I might never see a Republican president again in my lifetime.

[Eleanor]

Mid term elections in November, barring a Nuclear attack preventing elections in the states I think the Dems might just be making a few gains.

Oh well, at least I got to enjoy President Trump for 4 years, but I might never see a Republican president again in my lifetime.

I thought Trump was okay and at least he was interesting.

[Wonderfulspam]

I thought Trump was okay and at least he was interesting.

If you recall, he made friendly overtures to Putin & Russia.

He knew the USA couldn't possibly win a war against Russia, the Ukraine conflict, following the Western backed overthrow of Ukraine's president, was already 2 years underway when he got elected, none of his doing.

For his efforts at peace, he was smeared & investigated, held back from attempting peace by the Dems & some of his own party, eventually he caved into pressure & began sending arms to Ukraine.

One wonders what might be happening in the world now if his own country hadn't been so Russophobic, but, the intent by the states all along has been to try & get Putin out, spread 'democracy' to Russia, so it can be plundered for it's natural resources, join NATO & be on our side in the coming war with China.

But, alas, now we're going to be at war (we sort of already are) with both Russia & China soon instead, I don't fancy our chances really.

[Wonderfulspam]

So yeah, the abortion ruling is a very welcome distraction for the democrats from the massive inflation by excessive money printing, their unsustainable debt problem, the U.S dollar dominance fading, the military being over extended. For the first time in my memory it's actually the republican party now who are the party of peace, resisting arming Ukraine further. But it won't save them, the abortion outrage will give free pass for the dems to do whatever they like from now on.

[Wonderfulspam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMooGEw6vTc