Wandering Off Topic

[Vertigo Swirl]

Unfortunately some judge everyone by their own corrupted standards. Makes looking at themselves in the mirror easier I suppose.

more nonsensical rubbish.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Anyhooo it does rather appear that Clarence, having sold his soul to the highest bidder for many years, has found his natural home within the moral vacuum that is the current Tory membership. He’ll fit in perfectly.

Not judgemental at all no sirree bob, must be because she’s got a corrupted soul so she can look in the mirror - or something. 

[G-Unit]

Unfortunately some judge everyone by their own corrupted standards. Makes looking at themselves in the mirror easier I suppose.

Sceptics are portrayed as unthinking idiots who follow others such as Amaral and Blacksmith and adopt their theories and opinions without question. IMO it is supporters who have always accepted what they have been told by others - the McCanns, the media and Scotland Yard especially. They quote these sources constantly, while sceptics examine the evidence instead.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Sceptics are portrayed as unthinking idiots who follow others such as Amaral and Blacksmith and adopt their theories and opinions without question. IMO it is supporters who have always accepted what they have been told by others - the McCanns, the media and Scotland Yard especially. They quote these sources constantly, while sceptics examine the evidence instead.

So what you seem to be saying is - it’s ok to call supporters sheeple but not sceptics?  I see.   Let’s see you doing some questioning of what Amaral and Grime have said then.  Let’s see you disagree with anything Blacksmith ever wrote, I shan’t hold my breath….

[Vertigo Swirl]

What sceptics fail to notice is that they ARE supporters (of Amaral, of Grime, of the dogs (“dogs don’t lie”) of every blogger who slagged off the McCanns and poured vitriol onto people like Mitchell) whilst us supporters are deeply sceptical of Amaral, of the dogs, of propaganda-pushing, bile-vomiting bloggers like Blacksmith.   So, don’t think you are imbued with special superpowers that us plebby supporters don’t have, we have them too, it’s just that we have them correctly targetted. 

[G-Unit]

What sceptics fail to notice is that they ARE supporters (of Amaral, of Grime, of the dogs (“dogs don’t lie”) of every blogger who slagged off the McCanns and poured vitriol onto people like Mitchell) whilst us supporters are deeply sceptical of Amaral, of the dogs, of propaganda-pushing, bile-vomiting bloggers like Blacksmith.   So, don’t think you are imbued with special superpowers that us plebby supporters don’t have, we have them too, it’s just that we have them correctly targetted. 

I can only speak for myself, and I have not accepted anything anyone has said unquestionably. I understand why the McCanns were made arguidos, which their supporters claim to find incomprehensible. I can see no reason to accept that what the McCanns have said is the truth. I accept very little of what the media has said as true. I cannot understand why Operation Grange investigated only stranger abduction given the paucity of evidence.

The McCann supporters have chosen to believe uncritically what the McCanns, the media and the UK police have said. When a child has disappeared everyone's evidence should be examined and questioned, there's no room for belief.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can only speak for myself, and I have not accepted anything anyone has said unquestionably. I understand why the McCanns were made arguidos, which their supporters claim to find incomprehensible. I can see no reason to accept that what the McCanns have said is the truth. I accept very little of what the media has said as true. I cannot understand why Operation Grange investigated only stranger abduction given the paucity of evidence.

The McCann supporters have chosen to believe uncritically what the McCanns, the media and the UK police have said. When a child has disappeared everyone's evidence should be examined and questioned, there's no room for belief.

I don’t see any questioning  there whatsoever of the dog alerts, of Grime, of Amaral, of the PJ’s investigation, of every sceptic blogger from Poutlon to Blacksmith,  nothing, sceptics have chosen to beiieve them all uncritically.

[G-Unit]

I don’t see any questioning  there whatsoever of the dog alerts, of Grime, of Amaral, of the PJ’s investigation, of every sceptic blogger from Poutlon to Blacksmith,  nothing, sceptics have chosen to beiieve them all uncritically.

I see no questioning of the McCanns, the media or Operation Grange. Supporters have chosen to believe them all uncritically.

[Mr Gray]

I can only speak for myself, and I have not accepted anything anyone has said unquestionably. I understand why the McCanns were made arguidos, which their supporters claim to find incomprehensible. I can see no reason to accept that what the McCanns have said is the truth. I accept very little of what the media has said as true. I cannot understand why Operation Grange investigated only stranger abduction given the paucity of evidence.

The McCann supporters have chosen to believe uncritically what the McCanns, the media and the UK police have said. When a child has disappeared everyone's evidence should be examined and questioned, there's no room for belief.

I don't think you have a very good grasp of the reality of the way sceptics think. I  find your post total junk. Your first mistake which you cannot deny us  that you see your limited opinion as fact.
You accept the statements as 100% correct when the evidence suggests they are not.

I think you totally underestimate the intelligence and critical thinking of some posters such as myself....yet you admire those such as CMOMM posters who clearly do not have a clue

[Vertigo Swirl]

I see no questioning of the McCanns, the media or Operation Grange. Supporters have chosen to believe them all uncritically.

So both sides are firmly entrenched in their support and their beliefs making you no better than me, despite your superiority complex!

[Mr Gray]

Sceptics are portrayed as unthinking idiots who follow others such as Amaral and Blacksmith and adopt their theories and opinions without question. IMO it is supporters who have always accepted what they have been told by others - the McCanns, the media and Scotland Yard especially. They quote these sources constantly, while sceptics examine the evidence instead.

What total junk...you think supporters don't look at the evidence..what total ignorance...
You think sceptics claims are based on evidence...you are so wrong it's laughable.
Pretty well every sceptic is ignorant when it comes to the evidence..exemplified by...the dogs don't lie...mantra.

[Eleanor]

What total junk...you think supporters don't look at the evidence..what total ignorance...
You think sceptics claims are based on evidence...you are so wrong it's laughable.
Pretty well every sceptic is ignorant when it comes to the evidence..exemplified by...the dogs don't lie...mantra.

You can't cure lack of logic or ignorance.

[faithlilly]

I can only speak for myself, and I have not accepted anything anyone has said unquestionably. I understand why the McCanns were made arguidos, which their supporters claim to find incomprehensible. I can see no reason to accept that what the McCanns have said is the truth. I accept very little of what the media has said as true. I cannot understand why Operation Grange investigated only stranger abduction given the paucity of evidence.

The McCann supporters have chosen to believe uncritically what the McCanns, the media and the UK police have said. When a child has disappeared everyone's evidence should be examined and questioned, there's no room for belief.

The uncritical unquestioning stance of the average believer is starkly illustrated in their belief in Wolter’s claims that on the evidence he has that Bruckner killed Madeleine. Over two years on and with no charges brought, no evidence presented and nothing of consequence happening soon and they still believe. Imagine that that had been Amaral. It is not even as if they are saying ‘shall we just wait and see what he has’ but a solid belief that Brueckner is guilty based on nothing but Wolter’s words. Of course Brueckner is simply a long line of individuals targeted to take the focus off of where believers definitely don’t want it to be. Brueckner is a nasty character who should be kept inside for as long as is legally possible but to declare him guilty at this point while presenting no evidence is fair on no one, least of all Madeleine herself.

[Eleanor]

The uncritical unquestioning stance of the average believer is starkly illustrated in their belief in Wolter’s claims that on the evidence he has that Bruckner killed Madeleine. Over two years on and with no charges brought, no evidence presented and nothing of consequence happening soon and they still believe. Imagine that that had been Amaral. It is not even as if they are saying ‘shall we just wait and see what he has’ but a solid belief that Brueckner is guilty based on nothing but Wolter’s words. Of course Brueckner is simply a long line of individuals targeted to take the focus off of where believers definitely don’t want it to be. Brueckner is a nasty character who should be kept inside for as long as is legally possible but to declare him guilty at this point while presenting no evidence is fair on no one, least of all Madeleine herself.

No Supporter here has stated that Brueckner is unequivocally guilty.  Least of all me.

Such a pity that even after 15 years some persons do not afford The McCanns the same rights.  That is what pees me off.

[faithlilly]

No Supporter here has stated that Brueckner is unequivocally guilty.  Least of all me.

Such a pity that even after 15 years some persons do not afford The McCanns the same rights.  That is what pees me off.

The evidence against the parents, whether you agree with it or not, is there for all the world to see. Other than his offending history we have not one scintilla of evidence to date of Brueckner even being in the vicinity of 5a on the night in question.