Wandering Off Topic

[Lace]

No, they were given a restrictive remit which meant they were only to investigate one possible crime. The Met, btw is not the 'top' police force in any country.

They did a review of the case.  They started at the beginning.   They used the Portuguese statements so as they said there was no need to repeat these.   They ruled the McCann's out.

Even though Colin Sutton says he would have questioned the McCann's his conclusion was that Madeleine was abducted.

The German Police say Madeleine was abducted,  I didn't see any interference by the British Police for them to come to their conclusion.

[Eleanor]

They did a review of the case.  They started at the beginning.   They used the Portuguese statements so as they said there was no need to repeat these.   They ruled the McCann's out.

Even though Colin Sutton says he would have questioned the McCann's his conclusion was that Madeleine was abducted.

The German Police say Madeleine was abducted,  I didn't see any interference by the British Police for them to come to their conclusion.

Absolutely correct.

[G-Unit]

They did a review of the case.  They started at the beginning.   They used the Portuguese statements so as they said there was no need to repeat these.   They ruled the McCann's out.

Even though Colin Sutton says he would have questioned the McCann's his conclusion was that Madeleine was abducted.

The German Police say Madeleine was abducted,  I didn't see any interference by the British Police for them to come to their conclusion.

In my opinion the decision to rule out the parents pre-dated the Op Grange review. Those who instigated the review; PM Cameron and Home Secretary May made their motive clear; to help the McCanns.

[Eleanor]

In my opinion the decision to rule out the parents pre-dated the Op Grange review. Those who instigated the review; PM Cameron and Home Secretary May made their motive clear; to help the McCanns.

Are you accusing Cameron and May of being involved in a cover up for The McCanns?  Dangerous ground.

You are right of course.  It was those two who instigated The Review.  But I would be a teensy bit careful if I were you.

[faithlilly]

Are you accusing Cameron and May of being involved in a cover up for The McCanns?  Dangerous ground.

You are right of course.  It was those two who instigated The Review.  But I would be a teensy bit careful if I were you.

The parents themselves claimed that May didn’t seem eager to grant them a review. It’s said, and Rebecca Brooks was asked about this at Leveson, that she threatened the government that she would put damaging headlines about May on the front of the Sun for a week if a review wasn’t granted.

The chalice was poisoned from the start.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The parents themselves claimed that May didn’t seem eager to grant them a review. It’s said, and Rebecca Brooks was asked about this at Leveson, that she threatened the government that she would put damaging headlines about May on the front of the Sun for a week if a review wasn’t granted.

The chalice was poisoned from the start.

"It's said" - by whom?  What did Rebecca Brooks have to say on the matter at Leveson?  Do you think she might have had a hand in writing the Met's remit too? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

"The chalice was poisoned from the start".  What drama queen conspira loon nonsense.  IMO. 

[Eleanor]

"It's said" - by whom?  What did Rebecca Brooks have to say on the matter at Leveson?  Do you think she might have had a hand in writing the Met's remit too?

Ya, who said what?  No one ever seems to know.

The Portuguese Investigation was a farce, which was obvious to anyone with any sense of logic.  But let's not talk about that.  Any old rubbish will do so long as The McCanns remain in the frame.

Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  But fortunately this is only an Internet forum.

[Eleanor]

"The chalice was poisoned from the start".  What drama queen conspira loon nonsense.  IMO.

Madeleine was poisoned with Calpol Night.  Which didn't actually exist at the time.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ya, who said what?  No one ever seems to know.

The Portuguese Investigation was a farce, which was obvious to anyone with any sense of logic.  But let's not talk about that.  Any old rubbish will do so long as The McCanns remain in the frame.

Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry.  But fortunately this is only an Internet forum.

In the Real World the McCanns are not in the frame, same as the Manchester Bombing happened and real people died and were maimed, same as at Sandy Hook.  Also - Muslim terrorists highjacked planes and flew them into the WTC, and smoking is one of the leading causes of heart disease and cancer.  Some people shun the real world in favour of the online and interior worlds of fantasy, conspiracy and make-believe.  Sometimes this is harmless but increasingly it is not.  Real people get hurt by these idiotic conspiracy theories.  There's not much that can be done about it apart from to keep challenging it and shining a light on the nonsense when it appears.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Madeleine was poisoned with Calpol Night.  Which didn't actually exist at the time.

Yes she was given an overdose of sedative which had the effect of rendering her wide awake, moving the furniture around and jumping off it her death.  Obviously.  This is usually what happens when you heavily sedate a little child.

[Eleanor]

In the Real World the McCanns are not in the frame, same as the Manchester Bombing happened and real people died and were maimed, same as at Sandy Hook.  Also - Muslim terrorists highjacked planes and flew them into the WTC, and smoking is one of the leading causes of heart disease and cancer.  Some people shun the real world in favour of the online and interior worlds of fantasy, conspiracy and make-believe.  Sometimes this is harmless but increasingly it is not.  Real people get hurt by these idiotic conspiracy theories.  There's not much that can be done about it apart from to keep challenging it and shining a light on the nonsense when it appears.

This is why the likes of you and me are still here.  I have no desire to change the minds of embittered people, I only feel sorry for them and whatever happened to make them so.

My own childhood was not a lot of fun but I don't blame anyone because I can see the reasons for why they were as they were.

But I am not sitting here without challenging the unproven rubbish that I daily read that attempts to alleviate the hidden distress that some of these people must feel.

[G-Unit]

Are you accusing Cameron and May of being involved in a cover up for The McCanns?  Dangerous ground.

You are right of course.  It was those two who instigated The Review.  But I would be a teensy bit careful if I were you.

Of course not. I think they believed in the abduction and in the McCann's non-involvement in any wrongdoing. Maybe basing a police investigation upon belief rather than evidence isn't the way to proceed, however.

[Eleanor]

Yes she was given an overdose of sedative which had the effect of rendering her wide awake, moving the furniture around and jumping off it her death.  Obviously.  This is usually what happens when you heavily sedate a little child.

No sense of logic you see.  Unless The McCanns took Madeleine to Portugal just to kill her.

Unfortunately, Amaral was already in trouble with The Cipriano Case and needed another Murdering Mother to back up his theories on that one.  And along comes Kate McCann.  And fifteen years of lies and distortions.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course not. I think they believed in the abduction and in the McCann's non-involvement in any wrongdoing. Maybe basing a police investigation upon belief rather than evidence isn't the way to proceed, however.

So, if I understand you correctly you believe (based on no evidence whatsoever) that the government ordered the Met to review the investigation but to only consider stranger abduction as the reason for Madeleine's disappearance, is that right?