Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

Very limited indeed.

There is a huge gap between 2007 and 2022 of which lay researchers have no information.  That includes the files hidden away by Paiva when he fell heir to the case, full of information he was meant to investigate but which would never have come to light had he not mentioned it in evidence in court.
Which resulted in the trial judge instructing the files he had marked as not relevant to the inquiry be passed to the McCanns.  These files formed part of the information made available to the Met for their review which led to Madeleine's case being reopened.

We weren't aware of the findings of Oakly International, either, which led to the discarding of the theory that the abductor had been seen by Jane Tanner. OG then publicised the sighting of another man carrying a child, which had been given no urgency by Madeleine's parents.

[Wonderfulspam]

We weren't aware of the findings of Oakly International, either, which led to the discarding of the theory that the abductor had been seen by Jane Tanner. OG then publicised the sighting of another man carrying a child, which had been given no urgency by Madeleine's parents.

Even though the Private Dicks they hired had recommended the e-fits of the abductor be released to the public with haste.  Maybe Brueckner would have been caught sooner had they done just that.

[Eleanor]

We weren't aware of the findings of Oakly International, either, which led to the discarding of the theory that the abductor had been seen by Jane Tanner. OG then publicised the sighting of another man carrying a child, which had been given no urgency by Madeleine's parents.

He was walking in the wrong direction.  Or did you miss that?

[Wonderfulspam]

He was walking in the wrong direction.  Or did you miss that?

It appears the worlds best police force have.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We weren't aware of the findings of Oakly International, either, which led to the discarding of the theory that the abductor had been seen by Jane Tanner. OG then publicised the sighting of another man carrying a child, which had been given no urgency by Madeleine's parents.

Do you concede thst your so-called research is flawed, based as it is on a quite incomplete knowledge of all the known information regarding this case? 

[Eleanor]

Do you concede thst your so-called research is flawed, based as it is on a quite incomplete knowledge of all the known information regarding this case?

Gunit is a Johnny Come Lately, like quite a few other Sceptics.  They can never hope to catch up.

But it doesn't half make you wonder why they ever got involved, unless it was to deliberately cause disruption.

[G-Unit]

Gunit is a Johnny Come Lately, like quite a few other Sceptics.  They can never hope to catch up.

But it doesn't half make you wonder why they ever got involved, unless it was to deliberately cause disruption.

Catch up with who? You're  lot?

[Brietta]

We weren't aware of the findings of Oakly International, either, which led to the discarding of the theory that the abductor had been seen by Jane Tanner. OG then publicised the sighting of another man carrying a child, which had been given no urgency by Madeleine's parents.

Haven't you ever heard of investigators soliciting information for elimination purposes?  If you are unaware that they do so perhaps reveals an obvious inherent flaw in your "research".

[Brietta]

Do you concede thst your so-called research is flawed, based as it is on a quite incomplete knowledge of all the known information regarding this case?

The initial flaw in the investigation was to decide what the theory was in the first instance then to attempt to fit the evidence to it.

A basic error which knocked the investigation out of kilter almost guaranteeing abject failure.  Which may or may not have been the intention; however it is a proven method not to locate missing children or to find out what exactly happened to them.

[Brietta]

Gunit is a Johnny Come Lately, like quite a few other Sceptics.  They can never hope to catch up.

But it doesn't half make you wonder why they ever got involved, unless it was to deliberately cause disruption.

I think they did their best if one spurious petition after another is anything to go buy.  But despite their best efforts and the furious knitting of socks, all that happened was the revelation that there weren't as many of them around as their internet presence would have seemed to indicate.

Proving the adage about "empty vessels".

[G-Unit]

The initial flaw in the investigation was to decide what the theory was in the first instance then to attempt to fit the evidence to it.

A basic error which knocked the investigation out of kilter almost guaranteeing abject failure.  Which may or may not have been the intention; however it is a proven method not to locate missing children or to find out what exactly happened to them.

A method followed by OG in my opinion.

[Brietta]

Catch up with who? You're  lot?

I don't have a "lot".  But I do recognise internet posters who know what evidence is and who take cognisance of it.

I am also capable of recognising internet posters who follow false premises and are easily led into making it up as they go along, in tune with the implausible and impossible conspiracy theories their version of "research" has induced them to follow and promote.

[Brietta]

A method followed by OG in my opinion.

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it despite all indications proving how unqualified it actually is.

[Brietta]

Girl rescued after years in captivity "hardly able to climb stairs"
Anna Noryskiewicz - Yesterday
Berlin — Prosecutors in Germany are holding a mother and grandparents accused of holding the woman's eight-year-old daughter captive in a house in a small German town for almost her entire life. 

There are still many unanswered questions in this case, but the details that have emerged are shocking: The girl was allegedly held in a house in Attendorn, about 20 miles east of Cologne, for almost seven years. After being rescued by police, the girl said she had never seen a forest or a meadow or ridden in a car, according to local newspaper Sauerlandkurier, which cited documents from a regional children's hospital.

Police and the local child protection service searched the home on September 23 and rescued the girl. A medical examination found her to be in relatively good health and she was placed with an emergency foster family.

The public prosecutor's office in Siegen said the child's mother and grandparents were under formal investigation.

Maddie McCann suspect faces new charges in Germany
The girl showed no clear indications of physical abuse or malnutrition, the prosecutor's office said.

"However, the girl has never seen the outside world," senior prosecutor Patrick Baron von Grotthuss told the German news agency DPA. He said the girl is believed to have lived in the house in Attendorn for almost seven years, without ever being allowed to leave. She was able to speak and walk but was "hardly able to climb stairs on her own or overcome uneven ground."

The mother and the grandparents were not providing investigators with any information, officials said.

In 2014, the mother allegedly told the girl's father, from whom she had separated before her daughter's birth, that she wanted to move to Italy with their child. But doubts started to mount that she had gone ahead with that plan, despite her providing a forwarding address in Italy.

In September 2015, the father told the child protection services that he had seen the mother walking around town several times. Questioned by authorities, the grandparents said their daughter had moved to Italy with the child.

The father said letters and gifts he sent to his daughter at the Italian address were all returned unopened.

The child protection services also received anonymous tips that the mother, at least, could be in Attendorn. Recent attempts by authorities to contact the grandparents were rebuffed, and officials were refused access to the house. Police were also not allowed into the house by the grandparents, but the due to an apparent lack of evidence, no search warrant was issued.

Finally, a relative from the maternal side of the family contacted police and said he and his wife had recently visited the relatives in Italy with whom the girl and her mother were supposed to live. The Italian relatives said that neither the mom nor the daughter had ever lived there.

Then the girl's mother was reached by telephone at the grandparents' house in Attendorn, and authorities finally got the search warrant they needed.

The mother and the grandparents face charges of illegal deprivation of liberty and abuse.

Family acquaintances are also being questioned.

The next step, according to von Grotthuss, is to thoroughly evaluate the mental and physical state of the little girl, and he said it was "highly probable" that the mother would also be examined psychiatrically and, if necessary, the other defendants.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/girl-rescued-after-years-in-captivity-hardly-able-to-climb-stairs/ar-AA13Sd5J?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4d7532cc6e6d486490719f46a2385137

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do you concede thst your so-called research is flawed, based as it is on a quite incomplete knowledge of all the known information regarding this case?

And reply came there none.  I assume therefore that G-Unit does not believe her so-called research is compromised by not having all the information available to her.  She and Amaral have alot in common in that respect.  An incomplete knowledge of all the evidence leading to cock-eyed conclusions.  IMO.