Wandering Off Topic

[G-Unit]

It was passed by Parliament.  But one has to wonder how Britain feels about this when Brits have to work until 67.  France should be thanking their lucky stars.

I personally don't know how I feel about it since it has never applied to me.  I remain thankful for The Food Bank living as I do on a British State Pension.  The ordinary Retired French Citizen doesn't have to do this.

In My Opinion there will always be people everywhere just looking for a fight.

I understand that Macron forced it though Parliament without allowing a vote on it. That's one of the reasons for the protests.

[Eleanor]

I understand that Macron forced it though Parliament without allowing a vote on it. That's one of the reasons for the protests.

No he didn't.

[G-Unit]

No he didn't.

His Prime Minister did it technically but he certainly supports her.

Protesters have been emboldened by the government's use of constitutional power to ram through reforms without a vote in the National Assembly.

Mr Macron emphasised his continued backing for his beleaguered prime minister: "She has my confidence to lead this government team."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65037507

[Eleanor]

His Prime Minister did it technically but he certainly supports her.

Protesters have been emboldened by the government's use of constitutional power to ram through reforms without a vote in the National Assembly.

Mr Macron emphasised his continued backing for his beleaguered prime minister: "She has my confidence to lead this government team."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65037507

There is more to it than that.  But I can't be bothered to explain.

[G-Unit]

There is more to it than that.  But I can't be bothered to explain.

At least we know it wasn't passed by Parliament. It was forced through.

[Eleanor]

At least we know it wasn't passed by Parliament. It was forced through.

It was passed by a vote in The Upper Chamber by a majority of 70 Plus.  All perfectly legal.

[Myster]

Pushed through without a full vote...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/16/world/france-pension-vote#france-pension-vote

[Eleanor]

Pushed through without a full vote...

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/03/16/world/france-pension-vote#france-pension-vote

The New York Times?  This site is inaccessible unless I pay.  Although Why it should be of importance to anyone who doesn't actually live in France and who now has to work until 67 is a bit of a mystery to me.  The Bill has been passed legally through The Upper Chamber and is now in French Law.

[Myster]

And also signalling the demise of Macron and Borne no doubt...

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idOV799116032023RP1

[Eleanor]

And also signalling the demise of Macron and Borne no doubt...

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idOV799116032023RP1

Macron's time is nearly done now.  And what an achievement.  Two measly more years compared to Brits having to work until 67.

I know whose side I am on, probably because I understand what has gone on in France during the last 30 years, which is so much more than anyone else here can say.

Raising this argument was just another sneaky attempt to attack the opinions of a McCann Supporter and somehow make me look stupid when in fact I am anything but.

[Mr Gray]

Sceptics think grime impressed the FBI...more economy of the truth from what I can see. He may we'll have impressed Rex Stickhouse...one man...but that's it. More sales talk imo

[Wonderfulspam]

Sceptics think grime impressed the FBI...more economy of the truth from what I can see. He may we'll have impressed Rex Stickhouse...one man...but that's it. More sales talk imo

Any sceptics in particular think that, or all of them, perhaps? Did you conduct a survey?

[jassi]

Weird sentencing laws in this country - 42 years for shooting a child, yet only community service for raping a 13  year old.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11935437/Fury-man-21-raped-13-year-old-park-walks-free-young-sent-prison.html


One completely over the top and the other totally inadequate - IMO

[Vertigo Swirl]

Weird sentencing laws in this country - 42 years for shooting a child, yet only community service for raping a 13  year old.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11935437/Fury-man-21-raped-13-year-old-park-walks-free-young-sent-prison.html


One completely over the top and the other totally inadequate - IMO

JK Rowling, who in 2020 revealed she was “a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor”, wrote on Twitter: “Progressive Scotland 2023, where a man gets no jail time for raping a 13-year-old girl in a park. Young Scottish men are effectively being told ‘first time’s free’ ”

[Eleanor]

Weird sentencing laws in this country - 42 years for shooting a child, yet only community service for raping a 13  year old.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11935437/Fury-man-21-raped-13-year-old-park-walks-free-young-sent-prison.html


One completely over the top and the other totally inadequate - IMO

You are missing the point.  The boy was 17 when he committed the offence and jail wasn't an option at the time.

As for the other one, I would lock him up for life. He was a drug running hit man.