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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14970 on: June 22, 2023, 11:20:32 AM »
So do you now finally accept that the courts did not examine whether or not Amaral’s book contained defamatory and false allegations?   That it was not ever about libel but about whose rights trumped whose?   Incidentally if you can remember it the book did not mirror the investigation’s final conclusions which were that there was a lack of evidence that the McCanns were in any way involved in Madeleine’s disappearance.

The McCanns accused and Amaral defended. The court decided there was no basis for the accusations. Have you forgotten that the book covered only the period between May 3rd and September 10th 2007? The conclusions you refer to were reached in 2008.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14971 on: June 22, 2023, 11:29:24 AM »
The McCanns accused and Amaral defended. The court decided there was no basis for the accusations. Have you forgotten that the book covered only the period between May 3rd and September 10th 2007? The conclusions you refer to were reached in 2008.
Remind me - when was the book published?  If a newspaper published football scores as they stood at 45 minutes rather than after the ref blows his final whistle would that be an accurate reporting of the facts of the match?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14972 on: June 22, 2023, 11:33:17 AM »
But not for Gunit, it seems.  Her comment was meant as an insult.  But then I am used to being insulted by those more ignorant than I.

I don't actually care what drives your opinions. I object, however, to being accused of holding opinions which aren't mine, never have been mine and never will be. I agree with and support human rights and think they should apply to every human being; particularly the six absolute human rights.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14973 on: June 22, 2023, 11:36:11 AM »
Remind me - when was the book published?  If a newspaper published football scores as they stood at 45 minutes rather than after the ref blows his final whistle would that be an accurate reporting of the facts of the match?

What makes you think that a book's date of publication has anything to do with it's contents?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14974 on: June 22, 2023, 11:43:19 AM »
What makes you think that a book's date of publication has anything to do with it's contents?
It had everything to do with it IMO inasmuch as it peddled an incomplete account of the investigation dressed up as some sort of  definitive account.  That's what makes me think it, hope that's allowed.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14975 on: June 22, 2023, 11:45:54 AM »
Amaral's book was called "The Truth Of The Lie".  What truth does it purport to reveal and how was Amaral in any position to reveal it when the investigation hadn't come to an end at the point he was booted off?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #14976 on: June 22, 2023, 11:49:02 AM »

But what about my Human Rights?
I really shouldn't have to put up with people banging on about Amaral all the time. How can anyone be expected to live under such conditions? It's insufferable.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #14977 on: June 22, 2023, 12:12:48 PM »
I don't actually care what drives your opinions. I object, however, to being accused of holding opinions which aren't mine, never have been mine and never will be. I agree with and support human rights and think they should apply to every human being; particularly the six absolute human rights.
A Portuguese court ruled that Leonora Cipriano was tortured in police custody.
The pj officers claim she threw herself down the stairs which proves they were present when the injuries occurred. I have never heard you or any other anti support her human rights.....what does that meke your claim

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #14978 on: June 22, 2023, 12:39:54 PM »
A Portuguese court ruled that Leonora Cipriano was tortured in police custody.
The pj officers claim she threw herself down the stairs which proves they were present when the injuries occurred. I have never heard you or any other anti support her human rights.....what does that meke your claim

The only Human Right Gunit understands is her own.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14979 on: June 22, 2023, 02:13:35 PM »
A Portuguese court ruled that Leonora Cipriano was tortured in police custody.
The pj officers claim she threw herself down the stairs which proves they were present when the injuries occurred. I have never heard you or any other anti support her human rights.....what does that meke your claim
false imo
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #14980 on: June 22, 2023, 03:34:50 PM »
false imo

It w.ould make what gunit said about respecting everyones  human rights a lie

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14981 on: June 22, 2023, 06:00:27 PM »
It had everything to do with it IMO inasmuch as it peddled an incomplete account of the investigation dressed up as some sort of  definitive account.  That's what makes me think it, hope that's allowed.

Your opinion-which carries as much weight as did the McCann's opinion that the book harmed the search for their daughter. Neither can be proved.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14982 on: June 22, 2023, 07:00:04 PM »
Your opinion-which carries as much weight as did the McCann's opinion that the book harmed the search for their daughter. Neither can be proved.
Are you saying that it is just opinion that the book peddled an incomplete account of the investigation?  Surely that is an incontrovertible fact?
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #14983 on: June 22, 2023, 08:44:02 PM »
Are you saying that it is just opinion that the book peddled an incomplete account of the investigation?  Surely that is an incontrovertible fact?

As Amaral said;

Goncalo Amaral – The little girl died in the apartment. Everything is in the book, which is faithful to the investigation until September:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6307.0 page 25

So it was made quite clear by the author which period of time the book covered, and upon which he based his opinions.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #14984 on: June 22, 2023, 09:02:57 PM »
As Amaral said;

Goncalo Amaral – The little girl died in the apartment. Everything is in the book, which is faithful to the investigation until September:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6307.0 page 25

So it was made quite clear by the author which period of time the book covered, and upon which he based his opinions.
yes, he peddled an incomplete account of the investigation, so not my opinion but an actual fact, thanks for confirming.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".