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Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15270 on: November 18, 2023, 12:13:39 PM »
you are missing the point.  If evidence wasn’t important the police could link him to any or all other cases of missing children but they haven’t- why not?  And why all the German police so publicity driven all of a sudden?  How on earth did they manage to solve crimes pre-2020 without linking them all to Christian Bruckner?

 How on earth did they manage to solve crimes pre-2020 without linking them all to Christian Bruckner?

wELL, it does make you wonder when HCW has sat on concrete evidence for three and a half years that CB abducted Maddie

Yet HCW is no nearer charging him it seems in the near future....or ever.

Offline kizzy

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« Reply #15271 on: November 18, 2023, 12:16:07 PM »
The  Germans solved the DM rape where the PJ failed
They're now prosecuting 5 more where the PJ failed

That's six cases..you'd have to be daft to think the pj were anything but clowns and the BKA superstars

The five cases yes....seems all the publicity and CB face plastered all over the media ..payed of for HCW,

Online Eleanor

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« Reply #15272 on: November 18, 2023, 01:12:45 PM »

All I want for now is The five Cases dealt with and hopefully for Brueckner to be locked up for a very long time. Sadly, Madeleine will have to wait again.

I still want to know about Concurrent and Consecutive Sentences in Germany.  This could make a vast difference.  Google is not very clear on this.

Offline jassi

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« Reply #15273 on: November 18, 2023, 02:27:51 PM »
All I want for now is The five Cases dealt with and hopefully for Brueckner to be locked up for a very long time. Sadly, Madeleine will have to wait again.

I still want to know about Concurrent and Consecutive Sentences in Germany.  This could make a vast difference.  Google is not very clear on this.

Yes, I couldn't find that out either.

I'm not bothered what happens to Brueckner regarding these 5 cases, other than he shouldn't be wrongly convicted
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15274 on: November 18, 2023, 02:46:11 PM »
All I want for now is The five Cases dealt with and hopefully for Brueckner to be locked up for a very long time. Sadly, Madeleine will have to wait again.

I still want to know about Concurrent and Consecutive Sentences in Germany.  This could make a vast difference.  Google is not very clear on this.

All I want for now is The five Cases dealt with and hopefully for Brueckner to be locked up for a very long time. Sadly, Madeleine will have to wait again.

Agree - If found guilty he should be locked up for a very long time...for the crimes he has done.


Offline jassi

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« Reply #15275 on: November 18, 2023, 03:37:07 PM »
All I want for now is The five Cases dealt with and hopefully for Brueckner to be locked up for a very long time. Sadly, Madeleine will have to wait again.

Agree - If found guilty he should be locked up for a very long time...for the crimes he has done.

Surely it should depend on what he is found guilty of and sentence should proportionate to crime.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15276 on: November 18, 2023, 03:54:25 PM »
All I want for now is The five Cases dealt with and hopefully for Brueckner to be locked up for a very long time. Sadly, Madeleine will have to wait again.

I still want to know about Concurrent and Consecutive Sentences in Germany.  This could make a vast difference.  Google is not very clear on this.

He'll be a free man again before the Maddie case is solved.......IMO
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15277 on: November 18, 2023, 04:22:41 PM »
Yes, I couldn't find that out either.

I'm not bothered what happens to Brueckner regarding these 5 cases, other than he shouldn't be wrongly convicted

I find the fact that he doesn't get tested by a jury of his peers but by one solitary judge to be quite appalling in itself. Because of this I refuse to accept the courts verdict in advance. Unless it's not guilty.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15278 on: November 18, 2023, 04:28:32 PM »
Surely it should depend on what he is found guilty of and sentence should proportionate to crime.

Well of course.....thanks for pointing that out.

Offline kizzy

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« Reply #15279 on: November 18, 2023, 04:30:02 PM »
He'll be a free man again before the Maddie case is solved.......IMO

Or Dead.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #15280 on: November 18, 2023, 04:32:21 PM »
Or Dead.

I think we'll all be dead before the case is solved to be honest.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #15281 on: November 18, 2023, 04:39:15 PM »

Anyway. What do we reckon on his likely sentence? If guilty on all 5 I think 15 to 20 years before parole is likely, given the severity of the crime in the Behan case. He's not quite bad enough to receive life without imo. He isn't Peter Suttclife so they might let him out with supervision when he's about 70 & can't scale drainpipes anymore.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #15282 on: November 18, 2023, 04:49:28 PM »

Actually, scrap that. I just read that life in Germany means 15 years before parole. They'll have to let him out at some point surely.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #15283 on: November 18, 2023, 05:57:18 PM »
Actually, scrap that. I just read that life in Germany means 15 years before parole. They'll have to let him out at some point surely.
Preventive detention in German criminal law is a measure regulated by the
German Criminal Code which permits the state to keep dangerous criminal
offenders in – possibly lifelong – governmental custody beyond actual imprisonment in order to protect the public from them.
https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5235/219174412802604216.pdf
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Online Eleanor

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #15284 on: November 18, 2023, 06:33:53 PM »
Preventive detention in German criminal law is a measure regulated by the
German Criminal Code which permits the state to keep dangerous criminal
offenders in – possibly lifelong – governmental custody beyond actual imprisonment in order to protect the public from them.
https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5235/219174412802604216.pdf

This sounds about right for someone like Brueckner who has already been convicted of Child Sexual Abuse and Rape of elderly women.