Wandering Off Topic

[Uncle Jr]

Why did one Smith family member "go rogue", months after stating he wouldn't recognise the stranger again? Which parts of his original testimony supporting a possible stranger abduction were lies, thus casting doubt on the veracity of the other family members' statements?

Is this the supposed campaign to exonerate Murat again? Anyone who still believes that might as well get in bed with the Brueckner supporters for me, it's so outlandish a theory.

[Wonderfulspam]

There's no grand conspiracy in my theory. Just Mr & Mrs McCann disposing of Madeleine's body & getting away with it. It is the sheer simplicity of the bin theory which makes it the most plausible explanation. No abductor boogey men lurking in the shadows, staking out the McCanns apartment for days, extra abductors & getaway vehicles & so on. All too convoluted. No, it is the simplest explanation that is usually correct in life. She died in the apartment, Gerry took her out on his 9pm check, recovered her after suggesting everyone split up & search, then he passed the Smith family with a Maddie who wasn't looking too well & dressed in the wrong pyjamas, then he disposed of her. Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots fell for it. The McCanns capitalised on the moral panic around paedophiles & used it to their advantage. Mr Mccann phoning someone back home & telling them that gangs of Portuguese paedophiles had busted open the window & snatched Maddie. The case will never be 'solved' because Maddie is simply unrecoverable. But that doesn't mean it isn't obvious the Mccanns did it. Well it is to me anyway.

[Lace]

There's no grand conspiracy in my theory. Just Mr & Mrs McCann disposing of Madeleine's body & getting away with it. It is the sheer simplicity of the bin theory which makes it the most plausible explanation. No abductor boogey men lurking in the shadows, staking out the McCanns apartment for days, extra abductors & getaway vehicles & so on. All too convoluted. No, it is the simplest explanation that is usually correct in life. She died in the apartment, Gerry took her out on his 9pm check, recovered her after suggesting everyone split up & search, then he passed the Smith family with a Maddie who wasn't looking too well & dressed in the wrong pyjamas, then he disposed of her. Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots fell for it. The McCanns capitalised on the moral panic around paedophiles & used it to their advantage. Mr Mccann phoning someone back home & telling them that gangs of Portuguese paedophiles had busted open the window & snatched Maddie. The case will never be 'solved' because Maddie is simply unrecoverable. But that doesn't mean it isn't obvious the Mccanns did it. Well it is to me anyway.

So Gerry runs of with Madeleine to dump her on waste ground runs back chats to Jeremy in a happy relaxed manner went to the Tapas Bar continued to joke and laugh with friends while eating his dinner. 

[Wonderfulspam]

So Gerry runs of with Madeleine to dump her on waste ground runs back chats to Jeremy in a happy relaxed manner went to the Tapas Bar continued to joke and laugh with friends while eating his dinner.

Basically yes. He takes her out of the apartment,  secretes her somewhere in the direction of the Smith sighting, then returns to the apartment, leaves via the patio door & maintains the charade. The fact you think he's incapable of doing such a thing is really a You problem. It doesn't mean he didn't do it.

[Wonderfulspam]

Too many gullible people in this world seem to believe the Mccanns are incapable of crime for some reason.

[Wonderfulspam]

What do you believe Gerry was doing on his noticeably unusually long 9pm check then, Lace? Maybe he was doing a really big shit.

[Lace]

What do you believe Gerry was doing on his noticeably unusually long 9pm check then, Lace? Maybe he was doing a really big shit.

Why would he hide her body?

[Wonderfulspam]

Why would he hide her body?

Because she was dead?

[Wonderfulspam]

What would you prefer to be known as by your family, friends & the wider public? The innocent victims & parents of an abducted child, or the murderous/neglectful b........s who's child died on a family holiday? They chose the first option, & it's noticeable that 19 years later, there's still no abduction evidence, vague bogus second hand confessions excluded.

[Lace]

What would you prefer to be known as by your family, friends & the wider public? The innocent victims & parents of an abducted child, or the murderous/neglectful b........s who's child died on a family holiday? They chose the first option, & it's noticeable that 19 years later, there's still no abduction evidence, vague bogus second hand confessions excluded.

I think it is much worse to be known as parents who weren't there when their child was abducted I can't think of anything worse.  If she had died from an accident that could have happened when they were there.

[Wonderfulspam]

I think it is much worse to be known as parents who weren't there when their child was abducted I can't think of anything worse.  If she had died from an accident that could have happened when they were there.

Do you have children Lace? You seen very protective of children. Me personally I don't like children, they are expensive annoying little brats. Anyway, I view the world without child protective emotion, I view the case details without that emotion. Parents of children will be more inclined to fear the mythical abductor bogey man & will be willing to believe in it & as such the Mccanns. When, in reality, stranger abductions are incredibly rare. The overwhelming majority of disappearances are caused by family or someone known to them.

[Wonderfulspam]

It's impossible to know how she could have died, but, look at the evidence objectively. There is a major 30 minute discrepancy between Kate's account of David's 6:30 visit & David's account. So something had happened before then imo. The time discrepancy & details of the visit are too great to be easily explained away.

[Lace]

Do you have children Lace? You seen very protective of children. Me personally I don't like children, they are expensive annoying little brats. Anyway, I view the world without child protective emotion, I view the case details without that emotion. Parents of children will be more inclined to fear the mythical abductor bogey man & will be willing to believe in it & as such the Mccanns. When, in reality, stranger abductions are incredibly rare. The overwhelming majority of disappearances are caused by family or someone known to them.

Abduction is incredibly rare,  unless you have a person who has made a living out of burglary and selling drugs.  Who is so cocky he is known as the climber as he boasts of breaking into apartment and indeed a large stash of his takings were found in his home.  He is also a rapist who likes to dress up and inflict pain torturing women.  Who had a  mass of child porn buried under his pet dog.  Plus a gun and other suspicious powders.    Fantasising about abducting a little blonde girl.  Yes the statistics go down very quickly with someone like that living not far from the apartment.

I don't believe Gerry McCann took Madeleine's body and hid her on wasteland.  The evidence shows he was at the Tapas Bar the whole time after doing his check.  He was not away long enough to have gone to waste ground [wherever that is]
left Madeleine hidden there and came back as if nothing had happened.  It was his daughter and judging by the video's we have seen he loved Madeleine.  Plus he acted normally at dinner even ate his dinner.  Then when it was obvious that Madeleine was missing collapsed into a sobbing mess on the floor. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Abduction is incredibly rare,  unless you have a person who has made a living out of burglary and selling drugs.  Who is so cocky he is known as the climber as he boasts of breaking into apartment and indeed a large stash of his takings were found in his home.  He is also a rapist who likes to dress up and inflict pain torturing women.  Who had a  mass of child porn buried under his pet dog.  Plus a gun and other suspicious powders.    Fantasising about abducting a little blonde girl.  Yes the statistics go down very quickly with someone like that living not far from the apartment.

I don't believe Gerry McCann took Madeleine's body and hid her on wasteland.  The evidence shows he was at the Tapas Bar the whole time after doing his check.  He was not away long enough to have gone to waste ground [wherever that is]
left Madeleine hidden there and came back as if nothing had happened.  It was his daughter and judging by the video's we have seen he loved Madeleine.  Plus he acted normally at dinner even ate his dinner.  Then when it was obvious that Madeleine was missing collapsed into a sobbing mess on the floor.

No, I wouldn't expect you to alter your position even when it's laid out to you in plain English. Mr McCann disappeared, twice. Once at 9pm & again after the alarm was raised when he suggested they split up & search, see if she's just wandered out. Even though he knew she'd just been dragged out of the window & it was impossible for her to have left the apartment on her own. He makes no attempt to alert the police, he didn't tell Matt to go to reception like he later claimed, he makes no attempt to alert the police whatsoever for another forty minutes, Kate doesn't even try either. If you can't see anything suspicious about that then I don't know what to say really. Maybe solving crimes just isn't your forte.

[Joe Blogs]

No, I wouldn't expect you to alter your position even when it's laid out to you in plain English. Mr McCann disappeared, twice. Once at 9pm & again after the alarm was raised when he suggested they split up & search, see if she's just wandered out. Even though he knew she'd just been dragged out of the window & it was impossible for her to have left the apartment on her own. He makes no attempt to alert the police, he didn't tell Matt to go to reception like he later claimed, he makes no attempt to alert the police whatsoever for another forty minutes, Kate doesn't even try either. If you can't see anything suspicious about that then I don't know what to say really. Maybe solving crimes just isn't your forte.

Yes,good points from both sides today again, Spam!
You're scenario makes a lot of sense, but again, Lace is quite right too, if the McCanns are guilty then it was one hell of a feat to act normal that evening up until Kate raised the alarm! Dont you think?