There was no frantic activity by the Tapas Group after the alarm was raised

[pathfinder73]

Wouldn't you be frantic if a child belonging to one of your friends disappeared while you were all on holiday together and you had children too who could be at risk?

Alfie was thinking all of them must be involved which is unlikely so there would be blind panic which was useful for the perps. Only one was seen with a child after they split up so possibly none knew what had been planned in advance.

[Alfred R Jones]

Wouldn't you be frantic if a child belonging to one of your friends disappeared while you were all on holiday together and you had children too who could be at risk?

YEs I would, so what do you reckon?  Are the Tapas Group all unnatural or involved in the cover up?

[G-Unit]

So there we have it.  There was no frantic activity by the Tapas Group after the alarm was raised.  With the exception of 4 of them (and possibly Gerry) they were all calm, laid back, cool as cucumbers.

Glad we got that sorted out then!

They may all have been frantic but not all of them were active. Three of them were active from 10.05 onwards. Kate McCann says the four men split into pairs and searched. None of the men confirmed this. Gerry McCann may have been active on and off, but was frequently in the apartment.

[pathfinder73]

Many people? There were four/five of the group who searched. Fiona didn't go back into the Tapas, nor did Russell and Matthew, David and Gerry reportedly did. Not many of them, then. I think the waiter saw the beginnings of the MW child search procedure.

He served Russell and shortly thereafter, he was alerted to strange movements in the restaurant perimeters. He refers to the movements of two men from said group, David Payne and Matthew, who appeared to be searching the gardens the areas near the bar. The witness went to the esplanade zone and saw that the table that had previously been occupied by nine adults was now occupied only by the older woman, called Dianne Webster. It was also at this time that he saw that Russell's food was only half eaten and that the others had all finished their dinner.
David Payne and Matthew were nervously searching the area.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm

[Angelo222]

Who made the claim and could you kindly quote the post? Thanks. Because from what I have read briefly yesterday the issue was about whether the group were frantically begging people at the tapas area to call the police.....containing the insinuation no one would helpin this regard???? Not that there was no frantic activity full stop. My very deepest apologies if I am wrong in my understandng

So has Alfie started this thread on a false premise?

[Angelo222]

There was no frantic activity by the Tapas Group after the alarm was raised. There was frantic activity by Matthew, Russell and David, according to their statements.

Fiona initially went round the block then stayed in the apartment with Kate.

Gerry was seen searching the Tapas area by a waiter. By
 10.15-10.20 he was back in the apartment according to Dianne. He was there at 10.30 according to Mrs Fenn.

John Hill arrived at 10.30pm. After a while he went to the main reception to check that the police had been called. Fifteen minutes later he went to the apartment (about five minutes to 11 then). Gerry was there.

Rachael said that on arrival at the apartment after the alarm was raised Kate, Gerry, Fiona and David went in. She, Matthew and Russell stayed at the bottom of the steps. Russell and Matthew searched the garden, then she and Matthew went to check on Grace. Then he went to reception to call the police and Russell and David went off to search the roads. Around 10.30pm she and Gerry checked the upper floors of the block.

On the night of the disappearance he always saw the McCanns together in the apartment they were occupying at the time, with the exception of an episode when Gerry went to the main 24 hour reception with the purpose of speaking to a GNR officer, he is not sure at what time this occurred, but it was certainly before 24.00.

The GNR arrived at 11pm and Gerry stayed in the apartment after that.

It seems that any frantic activity was limited to Matthew, Russell and David, with Gerry taking part from 10.05 to
10.15 and possibly from 10.35 to 10.55.

Good post G-Unit   

The truth seems to be that there was initial frantic activity by the male members of the tapas group while the womenfolk primarily made sure their own children were safe and secure.

[pathfinder73]

If you read the rogs by David, Russ and Matt you will find Gerry is not mentioned after the initial split up. He has disappeared...

[Alfred R Jones]

So has Alfie started this thread on a false premise?

We've already had leading "sceptic" confirm to us that there was no frantic activity that night - what false premise would that be then?

[Alfred R Jones]

Good post G-Unit   

The truth seems to be that there was initial frantic activity by the male members of the tapas group while the womenfolk primarily made sure their own children were safe and secure.

Gosh, how suspicious when you put it like that!

[Alfred R Jones]

If you read the rogs by David, Russ and Matt you will find Gerry is not mentioned after the initial split up. He has disappeared...

No you don't.

[Angelo222]

We've already had leading "sceptic" confirm to us that there was no frantic activity that night - what false premise would that be then?

The "There was no frantic activity by the Tapas Group after the alarm was raised" one.

[Alfred R Jones]

The "There was no frantic activity by the Tapas Group after the alarm was raised" one.

well was there or wasn't there?

[Benice]

If you read the rogs by David, Russ and Matt you will find Gerry is not mentioned after the initial split up. He has disappeared...

So has my reply!!  which basically said:

IIRC according to your theory -  it's at this stage that he rushes off to do the deed, in the full knowledge that the police won't be arriving until 11.00p.m.     How he knew that in advance - has yet to be explained.    Also waiting to be explained is where and when he changed his clothes from blue jeans, polar top and tennis shoes - to dark coat/top, gold trousers and ordinary shoes -  and where and when he changed back into his original clothes/shoes.   Any ideas?

[G-Unit]

So has my reply!!  which basically said:

IIRC according to your theory -  it's at this stage that he rushes off to do the deed, in the full knowledge that the police won't be arriving until 11.00p.m.     How he knew that in advance - has yet to be explained.    Also waiting to be explained is where and when he changed his clothes from blue jeans, polar top and tennis shoes - to dark coat/top, gold trousers and ordinary shoes -  and where and when he changed back into his original clothes/shoes.   Any ideas?

I can only find one reference to clothing by an independent witness;

Asked about the way the members of the group were dressed up in that night, she only remembers that Fiona was wearing a green blouse, that Gerry was wearing a dark shirt and the husband of Fiona wearing clear pants, beige she thinks.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

Here are some beige trousers I think.

[Benice]

I can only find one reference to clothing by an independent witness;

Asked about the way the members of the group were dressed up in that night, she only remembers that Fiona was wearing a green blouse, that Gerry was wearing a dark shirt and the husband of Fiona wearing clear pants, beige she thinks.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

Here are some beige trousers I think.

What has the fact that the witness thought Dr. Payne was wearing beige trousers got to do with Gerry?   I don't get it.