Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?

[ferryman]

Eddie doesn't sniff every inch of the apartment searching for traces of blood. He would be in there for days. He goes in first to find cadaver scent.

A cadaver (any cadaver dog) searches for a scent within its scent-range.

That's all it does.

It doesn't differentiate between provenances of the scent.

[Mr Gray]

Eddie doesn't sniff every inch of the apartment searching for traces of blood. He would be in there for days. He goes in first to find cadaver scent.

#eddie will alert to whichever he comes across first...you are mistaken if you think he would ignore blood

[pathfinder73]

#eddie will alert to whichever he comes across first...you are mistaken if you think he would ignore blood

Where did Keela find microscopic blood? Between a tile that the human eye can't see. It wasn't easy. There's no way Eddie was alerting to blood scent at the wardrobe. That was his first alert in the apartment and there was NO Blood! No blood on the clothes, CC - see the pattern!

[Mr Gray]

Where did Keela find microscopic blood? Between a tile that the human eye can't see. It wasn't easy. There's no way Eddie was alerting to blood scent at the wardrobe. That was his first alert in the apartment and there was NO Blood! No blood on the clothes, CC - see the pattern!

there is a much bigger pattern....I don't believe there was ever a cadaver ion 5a

[pathfinder73]

there is a much bigger pattern....I don't believe there was ever a cadaver ion 5a

SY must do searching with the dogs. I think Redwood gave you a clue a few years back.

[Mr Gray]

SY must do searching with the dogs. I think Redwood gave you a clue a few years back.

Grime told us all we need to know about the alerts

[pegasus]

Grime told us all we need to know about the alerts

Are you doing a a royal "we" Davel? What about watching where Eddie's nose is just before he barks?

[misty]

Are you doing a a royal "we" Davel? What about watching where Eddie's nose is just before he barks?

It's certainly not at the pile of clothes in the corner.
Freeze-frame after Grime holds up Cuddlecat following its removal from the cupboard & the small pile of clothes + a larger pinkish object can be seen, none of which resembles the items signalled in the gym. There is no chair there.
 Similarly, the items shown on the clothes airer in the Panorama don't resemble anything laid out at the gym from the living room box - but weather conditions seem to show that that footage was not shot on the same day the PJ arrived (do you agree? Kate is also shown leaving in the car with Cuddlecat in her possession)
ETA correct video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqoj-pfBUnY

Correct me where you disagree, please.

[pegasus]

It's certainly not at the pile of clothes in the corner.
Freeze-frame after Grime holds up Cuddlecat following its removal from the cupboard & the small pile of clothes + a larger pinkish object can be seen, none of which resembles the items signalled in the gym. There is no chair there.
 Similarly, the items shown on the clothes airer in the Panorama don't resemble anything laid out at the gym from the living room box - but weather conditions seem to show that that footage was not shot on the same day the PJ arrived (do you agree? Kate is also shown leaving in the car with Cuddlecat in her possession)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U2FPr5Ndo8&ebc=ANyPxKo8LeRgx_vj7ZHgORiTYc1kHyNO64cDvZp2tVzXxvkLoJPtSMflBfUh1ag7rC620VnbZxk4OuWjqX7OFpUVjf1xAW5vcw

Correct me where you disagree, please.

All items that ended up in the sala comum box are by definition in the sala comum at the beginning of the villa video - the pillows are on the dining table and the clothes are neatly folded in several piles on the sideboard.
In the villa video the dining chair alert is separate from the sideboard alert.
The panorama footage of the car being loaded was shot before the search, on 2 Aug (not 3 Aug) - listen to the phone conversation.

[misty]

All items that ended up in the sala comum box are by definition in the sala comum at the beginning of the villa video - the pillows are on the dining table and the clothes are neatly folded in several piles on the sideboard.
In the villa video the dining chair alert is separate from the sideboard alert.
The panorama footage of the car being loaded was shot before the search, on 2 Aug (not 3 Aug) - listen to the phone conversation.

I'm still not seeing several piles of clothes on the sideboard - just the one, when Eddie barks. (the pinkish object is a lampshade I now realise). When the chair comes into shot, there appears to be nothing, if anything at all, of any height on it, going by the rails on the chair back.

[pegasus]

He leans up and checks top of sideboard twice. 1. sniffs a pile and does not alert. 2. sniffs a different pile and alerts.

[Benice]

Eddie doesn't sniff every inch of the apartment searching for traces of blood. He would be in there for days. He goes in first to find cadaver scent.

Are you being serious?    You talk as if Eddie knew he was 'working' for the police and was aware that he was searching for evidence of a crime.

All he knew is that 'searching' was a great game and if he found certain scents and barked - his owner would fuss him up and give him a reward.  The End.

[Brietta]

I'm still not seeing several piles of clothes on the sideboard - just the one, when Eddie barks. (the pinkish object is a lampshade I now realise). When the chair comes into shot, there appears to be nothing, if anything at all, of any height on it, going by the rails on the chair back.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5003.msg177755#msg177755   We had a loooooong discussion on this dog thread, many of the posts supporting there was no neatly folded ironing on the cupboard top but rather a pile of folders with a paper on top.

[sadie]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5003.msg177755#msg177755   We had a loooooong discussion on this dog thread, many of the posts supporting there was no neatly folded ironing on the cupboard top but rather a pile of folders with a paper on top.

Eddie appeared to be alerting to the pile of folders or the piece of paper.  He cetrainly wasn't alerting to CCat, which he had passed by several times at close range.

Wonder who those folders and the paper belonged to?
Wonder who decided that CCat should be put in THAT particular cupboard?


Was it a set up ....or not?
If it was a set up, who set it up?

[pathfinder73]

Eddie also passed the car before alerting to it. There was a scent in that area and CC was hidden. Scent doesn't remain in one place.