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Offline sadie

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #135 on: March 16, 2016, 10:40:13 PM »
"Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 8 years later."

Your sinature above, pathfinder.

I asked you before

Where did you get that supposed information from?  Did you make it up?

In other words, Is it disinfomation put out on a several times daily basis?

Offline misty

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #136 on: March 16, 2016, 10:50:45 PM »
Eddie also passed the car before alerting to it. There was a scent in that area and CC was hidden. Scent doesn't remain in one place.

Any particular reason you believe Eddie wouldn't have indicated to the passenger side of the Scenic, given the number of times those checked trousers of Kate's must have been in contact with the seat?

Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #137 on: March 16, 2016, 10:53:07 PM »
Eddie also passed the car before alerting to it. There was a scent in that area and CC was hidden. Scent doesn't remain in one place.

That may be the case in breezy conditions.

The car was in an enclosed garage ~ the source was within the scenic.

Cuddle cat was seen in various locations ...
  • in the bin
  • on the floor where it landed after Eddie had removed it from the bin and threw it around before studiously ignoring it
  • in the cupboard from whence it made a dramatic appearance after finding its way into it from where we last saw it lying on the floor
  ... the area was within a dwelling house ... an enclosed space with nothing to waft a scent away from its strongest point which is surely the source.

My pup sniffs for a second or two prior to launching directly at the source of whatever it is that is attracting attention ... I imagine a trained dog has a similar skill.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #138 on: March 16, 2016, 11:36:57 PM »
"Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 8 years later."

Your sinature above, pathfinder.

I asked you before

Where did you get that supposed information from?  Did you make it up?

In other words, Is it disinfomation put out on a several times daily basis?

I find truth and you will see what that time means when this case is closed. That time is in the files Sadie. Find it.

« Last Edit: March 17, 2016, 08:35:40 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

ferryman

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2016, 09:35:44 AM »
I find truth and you will see what that time means when this case is closed. That time is in the files Sadie. Find it.



You believe the alerts of Eddie indicated 'cadaver'.

What do you mean, you find truth?

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2016, 09:25:19 PM »
That may be the case in breezy conditions.

The car was in an enclosed garage ~ the source was within the scenic.

Cuddle cat was seen in various locations ...
  • in the bin
  • on the floor where it landed after Eddie had removed it from the bin and threw it around before studiously ignoring it
  • in the cupboard from whence it made a dramatic appearance after finding its way into it from where we last saw it lying on the floor
  ... the area was within a dwelling house ... an enclosed space with nothing to waft a scent away from its strongest point which is surely the source.

My pup sniffs for a second or two prior to launching directly at the source of whatever it is that is attracting attention ... I imagine a trained dog has a similar skill.

August in a mediterranean country is sweltering so door and windows will be opened at times as well as shut at siesta times, plus there may have been air conditioning, not to mention evening breezes, so to say the villa was some type of alcatraz where air did not enter is incorrect IMO of course

Likewise with the garage, afaiaw garages have huge open entrances and exits within which air flows

Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2016, 09:50:03 PM »
August in a mediterranean country is sweltering so door and windows will be opened at times as well as shut at siesta times, plus there may have been air conditioning, not to mention evening breezes, so to say the villa was some type of alcatraz where air did not enter is incorrect IMO of course

Likewise with the garage, afaiaw garages have huge open entrances and exits within which air flows

Garages do not "have huge open entrances and exits through which air flows if they are underground".


**Snip
Dog inspection report of cars searched in subterranean garage
Canine Inspection Report
Date 6 and 7 August 2007
Place Underground parking area of 1st of May Square, Portimao.
Participants: three PJ officers; two UK police experts; Eddy and Keela, the English Springer ...
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2016, 10:05:22 PM »
Garages do not "have huge open entrances and exits through which air flows if they are underground".


**Snip
Dog inspection report of cars searched in subterranean garage
Canine Inspection Report
Date 6 and 7 August 2007
Place Underground parking area of 1st of May Square, Portimao.
Participants: three PJ officers; two UK police experts; Eddy and Keela, the English Springer ...
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm
Oops missed out the "underground"
They have some , otherwise people would choke on carbon monoxide
Anyway depends how underground doesnt it?
I see you elected to ignore the other half of my post, does that mean you agreed with it, just so i know for future referencd like

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2016, 10:21:47 PM »
Garages do not "have huge open entrances and exits through which air flows if they are underground".


**Snip
Dog inspection report of cars searched in subterranean garage
Canine Inspection Report
Date 6 and 7 August 2007
Place Underground parking area of 1st of May Square, Portimao.
Participants: three PJ officers; two UK police experts; Eddy and Keela, the English Springer ...
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

They will be equipped with exhaust systems to remove toxic fumes giving a specific number of air changes per hour ie air is forced in and out ie it flows. There are Harmonised European standards for this.
Our own harmonised standard looks something like this:
http://www.groupscs.co.uk/wp-content/resources/car-park-ventillation-demystified.pdf
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #144 on: March 17, 2016, 10:58:36 PM »
Oops missed out the "underground"
They have some , otherwise people would choke on carbon monoxide
Anyway depends how underground doesnt it?
I see you elected to ignore the other half of my post, does that mean you agreed with it, just so i know for future referencd like

I did not agree with the first part of your post either just couldn't be bothered ... but since you insist. 

Revisit the Eddie and cuddle cat video ...
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1617.msg48301#msg48301

Contrary to the doors and windows being open to allow a through breeze, you may notice that some shutters are performing the task it has been my experience they do best in hot countries and that is to keep the sun out.  Same with sun shade canopies had there been any.

Therefore there was no force nine blowing through the villa while Eddie's visit was being filmed, some closed floor length curtains, windows and doors (only one slightly ajar) ensured that.

However, it is well worth revisiting that video just for the experience of watching the sequence between Eddie barking and cuddle cat making an appearance from the cupboard.  Absolutely classic!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #145 on: March 17, 2016, 11:08:20 PM »
I did not agree with the first part of your post either just couldn't be bothered ... but since you insist. 

Revisit the Eddie and cuddle cat video ...
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1617.msg48301#msg48301

Contrary to the doors and windows being open to allow a through breeze, you may notice that some shutters are performing the task it has been my experience they do best in hot countries and that is to keep the sun out.  Same with sun shade canopies had there been any.

Therefore there was no force nine blowing through the villa while Eddie's visit was being filmed, some closed floor length curtains, windows and doors (only one slightly ajar) ensured that.

However, it is well worth revisiting that video just for the experience of watching the sequence between Eddie barking and cuddle cat making an appearance from the cupboard.  Absolutely classic!

Shutters may be drawn at siesta and at very sunny times, windows are rarely closed, air gets through shutters, and any air is welcome

seeing as you couldnt be bothered here, perhaps youd like to have a try to answer my question i n the looking for a new mod thread, IF you can be bothered, which you dont seem to have been either there, strangely, as you might be the next mod

Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #146 on: March 17, 2016, 11:10:16 PM »
They will be equipped with exhaust systems to remove toxic fumes giving a specific number of air changes per hour ie air is forced in and out ie it flows. There are Harmonised European standards for this.
Our own harmonised standard looks something like this:
http://www.groupscs.co.uk/wp-content/resources/car-park-ventillation-demystified.pdf

The grills are clearly visible on the walls when viewing the video of Eddie's inspection in the garage.  The point I was making was not that there was no ventilation but that underground garages do not "have huge open entrances and exits through which air flows."
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #147 on: March 17, 2016, 11:14:15 PM »
Shutters may be drawn at siesta and at very sunny times, windows are rarely closed, air gets through shutters, and any air is welcome

seeing as you couldnt be bothered here, perhaps youd like to have a try to answer my question i n the looking for a new mod thread, IF you can be bothered, which you dont seem to have been either there, strangely, as you might be the next mod

If you care to follow the link I gave you will see no open windows and only one door which is slightly ajar while Eddie was carrying out his inspection.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #148 on: March 17, 2016, 11:18:15 PM »
If you care to follow the link I gave you will see no open windows and only one door which is slightly ajar while Eddie was carrying out his inspection.

Where a scent might have settled at any time has nothng to do with the time a dog inspected an area so I dont know what you mean

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #149 on: March 17, 2016, 11:23:45 PM »
The grills are clearly visible on the walls when viewing the video of Eddie's inspection in the garage.  The point I was making was not that there was no ventilation but that underground garages do not "have huge open entrances and exits through which air flows."

Well there will be apertures through which vehicles and pedestrians pass plus air inlets and outlets for fume extraction plus in hot countries probably air inlets and outlets to bung in a few tons of fridge (TF) to keep the place cool all leading to air flow in and out. May be not "hold on to your hats" but significant and measurable none the less.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey