Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question

[Mr Gray]

The book did not harm the search.

you forgot to put in your opinion

[stephen25000]

you forgot to put in your opinion

What was the judges pronouncement in court before the appeal ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think it is important to read the statement made by Madeleine's father in context.

The belief that Madeleine had not left apartment 5A had been heavily promoted ... we have been told that it is still the perception of many in Portugal nine years later that she died there.

There is no evidence to that effect as the released files made clear.

In my opinion Dr McCann used 'harm' as opposed to 'deceased'.

**Snip
Gerry McCann today reaffirmed his belief that official Portuguese police files showed there was 'absolutely no evidence' his missing daughter Madeleine had been seriously harmed.

He also said his family 'strongly believed'  that the little girl was alive and could still be found.

His comments follow  the release of thousands of documents from the massive dossier of evidence assembled by detectives over more than 14 months.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1045187/Police-dossier-shows-absolutely-evidence-Madeleine-harmed-says-Gerry-McCann.html#ixzz44E9uCKR3

Having an interpretation of what one wants to believe was meant and  in what context, does not change anything.

There was claims of no evidence of harm and then claims of evidence  where there was none.

[Mr Gray]

What was the judges pronouncement in court before the appeal ?

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tell me please

[ferryman]

Thank you for this Peggs.

Bring the thread back...This was my issue: no harm being abducted vs harm by book.

Physically harmed; obviously harmed by Amaral's book, because that encouraged people to believe Madeleine is dead, and hence discouraged people from looking for her.

A (pretty appalling) semantic quibble.

[Miss Taken Identity]

#and your opinions and views of zero importance...don't delude yourself that they are

It is not my opinion that the parents said what hey said that is ACTUAL FACT. wee difference.

[stephen25000]

Physically harmed; obviously harmed by Amaral's book, because that encouraged people to believe Madeleine is dead, and hence discouraged people from looking for her.

A (pretty appalling) semantic quibble.

People do not need the book to believe Madeleine has died.

[Mr Gray]

What was the judges pronouncement in court before the appeal ?

100 % you have misunderstood the judgement...it did not say the book did not harm the search

[Miss Taken Identity]

Physically harmed; obviously harmed by Amaral's book, because that encouraged people to believe Madeleine is dead, and hence discouraged people from looking for her.

A (pretty appalling) semantic quibble.

What people? name some? evidence?  I would say the family would want their daughter found regardless of her mortal state ( although, alive  would be everyones choice).

With regards to your remark semantic quibble. I and many others find it quite revealing.

Think on this: it took many years to catch the Yorkshire Ripper- how was he caught?  something unimportant and not worth bothering about caught the attention of two beat bobbies...

[ferryman]

What people? name some? evidence?  I would say the family would want their daughter found regardless of her mortal state ( although, alive  would be everyones choice).

With regards to your remark semantic quibble. I and many others find it quite revealing.

Think on this: it took many years to catch the Yorkshire Ripper- how was he caught?  something unimportant and not worth bothering about caught the attention of two beat bobbies...

So now you are comparing the McCanns to the Yorkshire Ripper?

[Mr Gray]

What people? name some? evidence?  I would say the family would want their daughter found regardless of her mortal state ( although, alive  would be everyones choice).

With regards to your remark semantic quibble. I and many others find it quite revealing.

Think on this: it took many years to catch the Yorkshire Ripper- how was he caught?  something unimportant and not worth bothering about caught the attention of two beat bobbies...

I will tell you how he was caught...by a very ...very expensive police operation...I know this first hand... I was actually interviewed by police

[Miss Taken Identity]

I will tell you how he was caught...by a very ...very expensive police operation...I know this first hand... I was actually interviewed by police

It was not the very expensive police operation which caught him. It was two beat bobbies, quiet night, saw something of no importance and thought to make something of it...

 
This is a point which is missing in this mystery- I believe the devil is in the detail and it will be something quite silly which will spring open this case. Maybe not get a conviction but something  small with kick things off. That is why the police are looking through everything apparently.

[stephen25000]

100 % you have misunderstood the judgement...it did not say the book did not harm the search

The book did not harm the search.

It is a myth.

[pegasus]

Thank you for this Peggs.

Bring the thread back...This was my issue: no harm being abducted vs harm by book.

http://youtu.be/gFZy2f2yQJA?t=3m44s says "there is no evidence to suggest that she has been harmed, in any way whatsoever" but soon after oddly gives as example a case in california where the victim was harmed

[carlymichelle]

of course  if maddie was alive she would have been harmed both physically  and emotionally     why is there so much denial  by people with this case? maddie   was 3  years old