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stephen25000

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #165 on: March 29, 2016, 09:55:04 PM »
Nor have I ever read anywhere how any of their private investigators harmed the search when it is on record that either a) they couldnt be bothered to question key persons of interest on at least two occasions (Edgar and Cowley) or else b) leave dozens of hotline calls to just sit there unlistened to (Oakley). Im sure Metodo have a few failings as well.

Pertinent points Mercury.


Offline pegasus

Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #166 on: March 29, 2016, 10:17:52 PM »
Pertinent points Mercury.
The real question there is: did the decisions made by those people who selected the private investigators harm the search?

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #167 on: March 29, 2016, 11:29:07 PM »
Pertinent points Mercury.

Thanks stephen. Of course they are because trying to fleece a policeman off of a million euros and destroy his life on an extremely questionable and often unproven argument whilst in the same breath paying for people who demonstrably let potential leads go down the drain is a bit hypocritical at best

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #168 on: March 29, 2016, 11:29:45 PM »
The real question there is: did the decisions made by those people who selected the private investigators harm the search?

Who hired alpha investigations?

Offline Lace

Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #169 on: March 30, 2016, 10:10:48 AM »
It was quite obvious to me from the start that when the McCann's used the term 'no harm'  they meant that they believed Madeleine had not been murdered.

stephen25000

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #170 on: March 30, 2016, 10:21:05 AM »
It was quite obvious to me from the start that when the McCann's used the term 'no harm'  they meant that they believed Madeleine had not been murdered.

No it's not.

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #171 on: March 30, 2016, 10:26:16 AM »
It was quite obvious to me from the start that when the McCann's used the term 'no harm'  they meant that they believed Madeleine had not been murdered.

I agree Lace. But what the McCanns didn't know is that a group of sceptics on the internet were going to spend their time picking over every word they ever uttered - with the sole aim of finding fault.   This is just one example IMO.


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stephen25000

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #172 on: March 30, 2016, 10:34:12 AM »
I agree Lace. But what the McCanns didn't know is that a group of sceptics on the internet were going to spend their time picking over every word they ever uttered - with the sole aim of finding fault.   This is just one example IMO.

Of course you agree.

You weren't going to say anything else.

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #173 on: March 30, 2016, 10:39:10 AM »
Of course you agree.

You weren't going to say anything else.

What do you mean?  Please explain.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #174 on: March 30, 2016, 12:07:26 PM »
It was quite obvious to me from the start that when the McCann's used the term 'no harm'  they meant that they believed Madeleine had not been murdered.

That is an interesting proposition.
Presuming Madeleine had been kidnapped then murder was not the only harm that could befall her. So in your opinion the McCanns meant murder when they said harm. What word do you believe they used to describe the other possible harms? and do you think that having said no harm ( meaning murder ) had befallen her they then accepted that the other harms had or would?
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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #175 on: March 30, 2016, 12:27:04 PM »
That is an interesting proposition.
Presuming Madeleine had been kidnapped then murder was not the only harm that could befall her. So in your opinion the McCanns meant murder when they said harm. What word do you believe they used to describe the other possible harms? and do you think that having said no harm ( meaning murder ) had befallen her they then accepted that the other harms had or would?

I believe Gerry said 'had come to no harm'  meaning that he didn't think Madeleine was dead.

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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #176 on: March 30, 2016, 12:34:06 PM »
I believe the phrase used was 'serious harm' so presumably the possibility of sexual abuse is not considered as serious.
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Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #177 on: March 30, 2016, 12:40:50 PM »

We will not pursue the Sexual Abuse Theory any further.  Thank You.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #178 on: March 30, 2016, 01:56:19 PM »
We will not pursue the Sexual Abuse Theory any further.  Thank You.

Horrendous thought isn't it ?

Imagine the guilt if you had enabled that horrendous injustice to a child.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: Harmed or not harmed ...that is the question
« Reply #179 on: March 30, 2016, 01:59:32 PM »
Horrendous thought isn't it ?

Imagine the guilt if you had enabled that horrendous injustice to a child.

i wouldnt be able to live with it would  you??