UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.

[Mr Gray]

The Brexit debate has created an “opportunity to re-found Europe”, Nicolas Sarkozy has said, but the former French president warned that Britain's departure from the European Union would go down as part of a “grand slam of errors” for the continent.

Mr Sarkozy, 61, who leads France's main centre-Right opposition party, The Republicans, said that Europe requires a new treaty, notably to better manage its borders, regardless of whether Britain remained in the bloc.

“The debate on Brexit is an opportunity to re-found Europe. On many of their criticisms, the British are right,” he told Le Monde.

“The fact that people have given up on Europe is a major cause for concern for all countries. I am totally against the UK leaving Europe. The worst would be Brexit plus Turkey’s membership, that would be the grand slam of errors,” he said.



The EU was running out of control and thank god the british people and govt have had the foresight to take action. This may  well signal the end of the EU as we know it as more countries question what is happening. Do we really want to see a million turks with free access to the UK ...utter madness.
 Change is needed and is being led by the British People

[stephen25000]

Both sides lied and spun. Therefore you can't blame voters for finding it difficult to make an informed decision. It is all Cameron's fault and now he's running away rather than facing the consequences and fulfilling his promise. I expect he received an almighty shove to resign but that's just added to the turmoil. Financial instability was on the cards anyway with the continued rise in borrowing in my opinion.

What matters now is for someone to take control, set out a clear timetable and some financial plans. The deafening silence is a disgrace and just adds to the uncertainty. Our political classes are clearly not fit for purpose.

I totally agree.

However, who is there that can do the job and won't be tarnished by the referendum ?

There is a meeting now of the main members of the EU, but again they can't go forward with cooperation from the UK government.

[G-Unit]

It wasn't a majority of the electorate Myster.

Besides,  the petition system is part of democracy.

Are you opposed to democracy ?

N.B. Watching some of the people yesterday who voted for exit was quite illuminating. Most of them couldn't come up with reasons why they had and they hadn't a clue about the consequences of such a decision.

It was a majority of those who voted, which has traditionally been the decision. We don't have petitions when a General  Election upsets people, why the heck should we have one for a referendum? What if the exit vote increases? More petitions?

If you haven't clicked by now that the media choose who to speak to so they can push an agenda I give up! How often do they speak to job seekers who aren't chavs?

[Wonderfulspam]

The Brexit debate has created an “opportunity to re-found Europe”, Nicolas Sarkozy has said, but the former French president warned that Britain's departure from the European Union would go down as part of a “grand slam of errors” for the continent.

Mr Sarkozy, 61, who leads France's main centre-Right opposition party, The Republicans, said that Europe requires a new treaty, notably to better manage its borders, regardless of whether Britain remained in the bloc.

“The debate on Brexit is an opportunity to re-found Europe. On many of their criticisms, the British are right,” he told Le Monde.

“The fact that people have given up on Europe is a major cause for concern for all countries. I am totally against the UK leaving Europe. The worst would be Brexit plus Turkey’s membership, that would be the grand slam of errors,” he said.



The EU was running out of control and thank god the british people and govt have had the foresight to take action. This may  well signal the end of the EU as we know it as more countries question what is happening. Do we really want to see a million turks with free access to the UK ...utter madness.
 Change is needed and is being led by the British People

But, the leftist libtard spoiled brats, they want open borders, & they're not going home until they get it.

They'll stamp their feet & cry, & anyone who doesn't agree with them is racist.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3658671/This-vote-doesn-t-represent-younger-generation-live-consequences-Millennials-fury-baby-boomers-voting-Britain-EU.html

[Wonderfulspam]

It was a majority of those who voted, which has traditionally been the decision. We don't have petitions when a General  Election upsets people, why the heck should we have one for a referendum? What if the exit vote increases? More petitions?

If you haven't clicked by now that the media choose who to speak to so they can push an agenda I give up! How often do they speak to job seekers who aren't chavs?

I voted against the last wasteful, war mongering labour lot for years.

I wasn't crying in the streets when I didn't get my way.

[stephen25000]

It was a majority of those who voted, which has traditionally been the decision. We don't have petitions when a General  Election upsets people, why the heck should we have one for a referendum? What if the exit vote increases? More petitions?

If you haven't clicked by now that the media choose who to speak to so they can push an agenda I give up! How often do they speak to job seekers who aren't chavs?

I am well aware of the latter part of your post.

I have also seen on here the attitude of so called thinking people to the referendum debate, as well as in everyday conversations.

A lot of the little Englander cliched phrases have appeared on here, along with the predictions we can do things all by our self. Yet we live in a world where in reality, younger people can see beyond national boundaries and are not harnessed by nationalistic obsessions.

You can still be British, yet be part of a wider community.

[stephen25000]

I voted against the last wasteful, war mongering labour lot for years.

I wasn't crying in the streets when I didn't get my way.

The conservatives voted for the wars as well Spam.

Have you forgotten that ?

Look at at the mess UK governments have helped create in the Middle East.

[stephen25000]

But, the leftist libtard spoiled brats, they want open borders, & they're not going home until they get it.

They'll stamp their feet & cry, & anyone who doesn't agree with them is racist.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3658671/This-vote-doesn-t-represent-younger-generation-live-consequences-Millennials-fury-baby-boomers-voting-Britain-EU.html

You 'apparently' support the EDL.

So what does that make you ?

[Myster]

It wasn't a majority of the electorate Myster.

Besides,  the petition system is part of democracy.

Are you opposed to democracy ?

N.B. Watching some of the people yesterday who voted for exit was quite illuminating. Most of them couldn't come up with reasons why they had and they hadn't a clue about the consequences of such a decision.

You carry on with your economic pessimism, stephen. The referendum is over and imo the correct decision made, so I'm looking forward to a future free from the shackles of Europe.

Although some people should never be allowed anywhere near a polling station...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/i-really-regret-my-vote-now-the-brexit-voters-who-wish-theyd-voted-to-remain-a3280361.html

[stephen25000]

You carry on with your economic pessimism, stephen. The referendum is over and imo the correct decision made, so I'm looking forward to a future free from the shackles of Europe.

Although some people should never be allowed anywhere near a polling station...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/i-really-regret-my-vote-now-the-brexit-voters-who-wish-theyd-voted-to-remain-a3280361.html

IYO.

That says it all.

As to 'pessimism', we are now seeing as forecasted the results of a 'leave' vote.

Have you studied Economics ?



Oh, by the way Myster, how has this country being a member of the EU hurt you ?

[Wonderfulspam]

You 'apparently' support the EDL.

So what does that make you ?

 &%&£(+

 

You tw@ stephen!

Can you not tell wummery when you see it anymore?!

The EDL are a bunch of idiot, pisshead football hooligans. (Hint: This is my genuine opinion on the racist w.......s of the EDL).


Muslamic Ray Guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

[stephen25000]

&%&£(+

 

You tw@ stephen!

Can you not tell wummery when you see it anymore?!

The EDL are a bunch of idiot, pisshead football hooligans. (Hint: This is my genuine opinion on the racist w.......s of the EDL).


Muslamic Ray Guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

So why the need to try to wind people up.

Try giving your genuine views, if you have any.

I am well aware of the 'muslamic ray guns' reference already.

[Alice Purjorick]

Well the votes have been cast and we have a result.
There is now a job to be done sorting out all the "I didn't expect that to happen bits" in order that the UK can function. Like redrafting laws and standards because one cannot have a void in such matters. That could take up to ten years so one can foresee a vote to keep all the old EU laws and harmonised standards changing them "as and when". So having had a vote that is one of the most important in my lifetime, UK's wonderful leaders are apparently going to hang about for three months with their fingers up their arses.
One does rather incline to the view they did not see this coming.

[stephen25000]

Well the votes have been cast and we have a result.
There is now a job to be done sorting out all the "I didn't expect that to happen bits" in order that the UK can function. Like redrafting laws and standards because one cannot have a void in such matters. That could take up to ten years so one can foresee a vote to keep all the old EU laws and harmonised standards changing them "as and when". So having had a vote that is one of the most important in my lifetime, UK's wonderful leaders are apparently going to hang about for three months with their fingers up their arses.
One does rather incline to the view they did not see this coming.

They probably thought that most voters with an iota of common sense could see beyond meaningless slogans.


 Can anyone on here answer the questions of how they think the EU has spoilt their lives or eroded their 'britishness'  ?

[sadie]

Marching on.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

I am not much for petitions, and neither am I normally in favour of re-voting a referendum ....but this is such a grave matter that I have signed the petition.

I think that a great many unthinking people, who didn't understand the consequences, were swayed by the propaganda and razzmatazz etc. .... and now want to change their minds.

May I suggest that others of you who now realise what a mess we have made of it, sign this petition now..  I think it is being considered tomorrow.  So not much time





Thank you stephen for posting the address.