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Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #270 on: June 25, 2016, 01:27:35 PM »
I'm hoping that people come to their senses and it gets FAR MORE than 5 million votes.

But pls get cracking and repair the damage.

It would be interesting to hear why you hold the views you do Sadie, but as you seem to have a habit of presenting your opinions without explaining them I won't hold my breath.

It seems to be a theme of the remain faction who think they have the right answers and those who disagree are lacking in some way. I don't much care for Boris Johnson but the personal attacks on him by those remain women in that debate didn't help their cause one bit imo.
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Offline rotti

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #271 on: June 25, 2016, 01:29:59 PM »
lets say your petition gets 5 million votes...why should such a small group carry any weight when a much larger group has voted to leave
exactly we asked for a vote we got it.now we must respect it 8(0(*

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #272 on: June 25, 2016, 01:38:04 PM »
How do we provide affordable housing (& public services) to meet population growth, regardless of immmigration?

Build on the green belt?

Can no one see the problem with that?

Now we are out of the EU and not subject to the CAP we can build on the land farmers have been paid not to farm buy nabbing it under CPO's.
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Offline rotti

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #273 on: June 25, 2016, 01:51:28 PM »
remember we are still in the commonwealth ,why not give member countrys the same immigration rights as we give the eu countrys.

Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #274 on: June 25, 2016, 02:13:44 PM »
May I ask you roughly where your farm is?

I am not asking you to nail it to a specific locality, just a general region.

From what you have said, I get the impression N Ireland.  If this is so, since I also get the impression that N Ireland in the main voted to remain, so how did that come about and what should now be done about it, if anything.

On to a much lesser point, N Ireland v Wales in Euro 2016.  I am struggling to come up with a special menu for this.  Wales v England was hard enough to get beyond Welsh lamb and leeks.  On the Ulster side, I am doubly struggling, perhaps because it is difficult to separate N Irish recipes from Republic of Ireland recipes.  Suggestions are welcome.

The only reason N Ireland voted #remain was because half the country voted on the same old ethnic cultural political lines. The other half voted on the basis of the potential economic impact.  Thus the 55% remain and 45% leave result.


On the subject of culinary possibilities, a bit late now but an Ulster fry for breakfast which can also be served with afternoon tea.
For dinner, potato and leek soup starter.

Some other local specialities include:

Champ (known as 'Poundies' in some areas) – a delicious comfort food dish of potatoes mashed with lots of butter, warm milk and chopped spring onions or, as we call them, scallions. We also love our spuds fried, roast, baked and simply boiled in their ‘jackets’ to be peeled ceremoniously at the table.

Irish Stew - a hearty casserole traditionally made with meat, potatoes, carrots and onions. The Ulster variety is made with steak pieces instead of lamb – cooked to a peppery slush and often served with thick slices of buttered bread.

Dulse – a salty, seaweed snack, originally harvested by fishermen to supplement their income when fishing was slack. Found at markets, and in some bars, it is also used in Robert Ditty’s sesame seed and dulse oatcakes, and in the Causeway Cheese Company’s cheese, and it can add a very pleasant saline edge to a loaf of soda bread.

Lough Neagh eel – traditionally eaten at Hallowe’en and served fried in chunks with a white onion sauce, also often smoked and served as a starter.

Potato bread farl – a dense, earthy flat bread, made with potatoes, flour, and buttermilk and cooked on a griddle. This bread is the heart of every Ulster Fry and a must-buy foodie souvenir.

Soda bread farl - first baked in 19th century Ireland when local peasants added baking soda to help the dough rise. The result is thick, chunky soft bread with fluffy consistency that is best served fried as part of the Ulster Fry, or toasted with a big dollop of butter. They are also the base for popular Paddy’s Pizzas.

Wheaten bread - a healthy brown bread made with whole wheat flour and delicious toasted with melted cheese or buttered and served with a big bowl of steaming broth.

Yellow man – a crunchy golden confectionery often confused with honeycomb, but similar in texture, sold at fairs and markets.

Vegetable roll – well actually its thick slices of a fatty meat from the trimmings of brisket and rib with seasoning of fresh vegetables, usually celery, leek, carrot and onion. It was traditionally part of an Ulster Fry but now more often served at lunch or dinner with mashed potato or champ, and mashed swede or turnip.

Steak & Guinness pies – Steak & Guinness pie is the pub grub of choice in most parts of Ulster. The meat is cooked first, and then a pie dish is lined with puff pastry, filled with the beef and then topped with the pastry. It differs from the UK pastry-topped pie, in that the pastry is both on top and underneath, the meat. Butchers sell a wide range of pies with fillings such as mince and onion or chicken and ham.

Ardglass potted herring – not to be confused with roll mops, this dish was created in the days when herrings were plentiful. Each family has its own secret variation, but often they are wrapped around onion, bay leaf and all-spice with a 50:50 mixture of malt vinegar and water, topped with breadcrumbs and baked.

Traditional butcher’s sausages – the fine-textured sausage typical in Northern Ireland is very distinct from continental styles, and each butcher has his own unique family recipe, usually made with natural casings and hand-linked. Beef sausages seem peculiar to the north of Ireland, although they are also found in Scotland.

Pasties – this comforting mixture of sausage meat, onions, mashed potato is shaped like a burger, and always spiced with loads and loads of black pepper. You can order them plain, battered (the chip shop favourite) or coated with golden breadcrumbs.

Boxty – predominately found in County Fermanagh, Boxty is a weighty, starchy potato cake made with 50:50 mix of cooked mashed potatoes and grated, strained, raw potato. The most common variety is boiled boxty, also known as hurley, a large round loaf which is boiled whole for several hours, allowed to rest and then sliced and fried, often with bacon.

Buttermilk – a by-product of churning butter on the farm, buttermilk is responsible for the distinctive flavour and texture of Northern Irish breads – soda farls, potato bread, pancakes and wheaten bread.
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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #275 on: June 25, 2016, 02:26:01 PM »
Oh My god!... Schulz needs to get that scruffy beard shaved off before he appears in public again! Frightening!

A dapper Farage letting rip...

Love him or hate him one has to admit he's bloody good at what the does.  Notice the guy next to Juncker pissing himself laughing.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #276 on: June 25, 2016, 02:32:25 PM »
 “If I would say now that we have a Plan B, this would indicate a kind of willingness of the Commission to envisage seriously that Britain could leave the European Union,” Mr Juncker said.

“We don’t have a Plan B. We have a Plan A. Britain will stay in the European Union as a constructive and active member.”

Jean-Claude Juncker

16th Feb 2016.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12160416/Jean-Claude-Juncker-Ive-no-Plan-B-because-Britain-will-not-leave.html
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Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #277 on: June 25, 2016, 02:36:59 PM »
“If I would say now that we have a Plan B, this would indicate a kind of willingness of the Commission to envisage seriously that Britain could leave the European Union,” Mr Juncker said.

“We don’t have a Plan B. We have a Plan A. Britain will stay in the European Union as a constructive and active member.”

Jean-Claude Juncker

16th Feb 2016.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12160416/Jean-Claude-Juncker-Ive-no-Plan-B-because-Britain-will-not-leave.html

That was what he thought back in February but the chickens have now come home to roost.  The UK is out of the EU and effectively rudderless thanks to a gutless PM who cares more about his own credibility than he does for the wellbeing of this country.  There is no hiding the truth, David Cameron is a liar.  He stated before the referendum that he wanted the people to decide and regardless of the decision he would continue to work for the best interest of the country.

Cameron made a big mistake in taking the lead and campaigning for remain.  He should have left that to someone else and remained impartial throughout the process.  By promoting remain so passionately followed by being defeated so definitely he has lost the credibility so essential to be the leader of the UK.  A massive fail on all counts!
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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #278 on: June 25, 2016, 02:38:35 PM »
“If I would say now that we have a Plan B, this would indicate a kind of willingness of the Commission to envisage seriously that Britain could leave the European Union,” Mr Juncker said.

“We don’t have a Plan B. We have a Plan A. Britain will stay in the European Union as a constructive and active member.”

Jean-Claude Juncker

16th Feb 2016.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/12160416/Jean-Claude-Juncker-Ive-no-Plan-B-because-Britain-will-not-leave.html

So what plan do the likes of Johnson and Gove have now, after the result they didn't expect ?



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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #279 on: June 25, 2016, 02:43:32 PM »
I haven't been decrying belonging to 'wider communities'. I am all in favour of the Commonwealth and NATO, for example.

My argument is that free movement of European people plus immigration from elsewhere could lead to a situation where national boundaries become meaningless. If all European nations have similar ethnic mixes why have nations? People can't ignore that future possibility because it's there and it's real. Being 'British' then becomes a geographical distinction only. How far do you want to go?


I was watching several owners of businesses on TV this morning.

They stated they can't recruit enough of the people they need in the UK.

So if we block migration from the EU , what next ?


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #280 on: June 25, 2016, 02:46:38 PM »
So what plan do the likes of Johnson and Gove have now, after the result they didn't expect ?

I'm sure they're working on it as we speak, that which Cameron should have organised before he even called a referendum in the first place.

I'm in favour of Boris.

I have a feeling though, that the Tory members might disagree.
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Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #281 on: June 25, 2016, 02:48:30 PM »

I was watching several owners of businesses on TV this morning.

They stated they can't recruit enough of the people they need in the UK.

So if we block migration from the EU , what next ?

Maybe they should try harder.  There are thousands of young people out there without jobs.  In any event nobody is talking about blocking recruitment of skilled professionals from anywhere in the world.  Let them come and work, let them send money home and let them go home at the end of it.  A work permit should not be an open door to citizenship.
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« Reply #282 on: June 25, 2016, 02:58:41 PM »
Maybe they should try harder.  There are thousands of young people out there without jobs.  In any event nobody is talking about blocking recruitment of skilled professionals from anywhere in the world.  Let them come and work, let them send money home and let them go home at the end of it.  A work permit should not be an open door to citizenship.

What has stopped these young people getting off their backsidesin the UK, working hard and, getting the qualifications they need ?

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #283 on: June 25, 2016, 03:00:08 PM »
Maybe they should try harder.  There are thousands of young people out there without jobs.  In any event nobody is talking about blocking recruitment of skilled professionals from anywhere in the world.  Let them come and work, let them send money home and let them go home at the end of it.  A work permit should not be an open door to citizenship.

Rather a few too many with degrees in Bob Dylan and NVQs in Nail Art but that's another story.

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    Commonwealth citizens with a grandparent born in the United Kingdom and Islands may be admitted for up to five years on this basis, and thereafter be granted indefinite leave to remain.
    Commonwealth citizens between the ages of 18 and 30 were eligible to be admitted for a "working holiday" for up to two years. This has since been replaced with the more restrictive Youth Mobility Scheme[4] (now open only to youth of Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and Monaco).
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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #284 on: June 25, 2016, 03:02:54 PM »
I'm sure they're working on it as we speak, that which Cameron should have organised before he even called a referendum in the first place.

I'm in favour of Boris.

I have a feeling though, that the Tory members might disagree.

Let's see first if Boris could organise a P up in a brewery. *&*%£

I feel sure his degree in Classical History and Philosophy will help. 8)-)))