UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.

[Myster]

Now what did Farage say the other day.

Ah yes, if the result had been 52 to 48 in favour of remain, he would demand a second referendum.

Apparently he changed his mind on that.   

It's not the only thing the former member of the National Front  changed his mind on either.

A bolshie right-wing schoolboy perhaps but not a member of the NF - cite if you would.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10322331/Nigel-Farage-was-a-racist-schoolboy.html

[stephen25000]

A bolshie right-wing schoolboy perhaps but not a member of the NF - cite if you would.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10322331/Nigel-Farage-was-a-racist-schoolboy.html

I have amended the term, but if you really think Farage  is not a racist, then you are very much mistaken IMO.

http://itsrainingmensheviks.tumblr.com/post/146058584605/ukips-ties-to-the-national-front

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014/06/19/nigel-farage-proud-of-alliance-with-far-right-parties

and there is plenty more.


You know the old saying........

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

[stephen25000]

' Brexit to cause immigration surge as 500,000 East Europeans 'will rush in before borders close' '

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-cause-immigration-surge-500000-8283329

In reality the brexiters had no idea how to control immigration, it was all slogans.

Now the reality will bite.

[G-Unit]

Now what did Farage say the other day.

Ah yes, if the result had been 52 to 48 in favour of remain, he would demand a second referendum.

Apparently he changed his mind on that.   

It's not the only thing the former member of the National Front  changed his mind on either.

Farage is a politician. Politicians are as truthful as journalists. As I said earlier on the thread truthfulness and integrity are scarce in today's world.

I see our 'friends' in Europe are searching the regulations to see if they can hurry us on our way.

The president of the European parliament, Martin Schulz, told the Guardian that EU lawyers were studying whether it was possible to speed up the triggering of article 50.

He said it was difficult to accept that “a whole continent is taken hostage because of an internal fight in the Tory party”, adding that he doubted the timing of article 50 was down to the UK alone.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/25/eu-emergency-talks-brexit-berlin

Cameron thought Britain would be OK if we voted to leave the EU;

Mr Cameron said he understood "the appeal" of Britain going it alone and he was sure the UK would survive outside the EU.......Douglas Carswell told the BBC it was the speech he had "been waiting to hear from a Conservative prime minister all my adult life", while Mark Pritchard said it was "a major triumph" and would unite his party.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21148282

The Referendum Act;

The act makes no provision for the result to be legally binding on the government or on any future government due to the principle of parliamentary sovereignty although the decision will be final
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Referendum_Act_2015

[Myster]

' Brexit to cause immigration surge as 500,000 East Europeans 'will rush in before borders close' '

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-cause-immigration-surge-500000-8283329

In reality the brexiters had no idea how to control immigration, it was all slogans.

Now the reality will bite.

Have they all got jobs already lined up in member states on their borders then?

[stephen25000]

I have been told it is a piss take.

It was apparently started by a Brexiter before the referendum result in case things didn't go their way.

[G-Unit]

Anyone who thinks this country was united before the referendum is naive. Both campaigns lied, anyone who thinks they didn't is naive. I have spoken to people who couldn't work out the best way to vote because they knew that there were lies on both sides. The Scottish people put their trust in the SNP and voted the way they said. Their vote was more to do with that than with Europe, in my opinion.

In the last Election 66% of those eligible voted. The turnout for the referendum was 72%; That's around 3 million people. Perhaps the turnout was higher because people knew their vote was more likely to count. Perhaps they felt more strongly about the EU question.

This result has highlighted the pre-existing divide in the UK, not caused it.
 
Judging by the reaction of our political representatives masters neither of the main parties seem able to unite and provide clear leadership because the result has highlighted the divisions amongst them too.

There's no point in blaming either side for what has happened because in my opinion it has simply demonstrated how out of touch both sides are with the majority of those who voted to leave the EU; 17,410,742 people didn't agree with remaining in the EU. It's time for the politicians to earn their salaries, pull their socks up and get to work to sort out the exit instead of fighting each other.

[Mr Gray]

Anyone who thinks this country was united before the referendum is naive. Both campaigns lied, anyone who thinks they didn't is naive. I have spoken to people who couldn't work out the best way to vote because they knew that there were lies on both sides. The Scottish people put their trust in the SNP and voted the way they said. Their vote was more to do with that than with Europe, in my opinion.

In the last Election 66% of those eligible voted. The turnout for the referendum was 72%; That's around 3 million people. Perhaps the turnout was higher because people knew their vote was more likely to count. Perhaps they felt more strongly about the EU question.

This result has highlighted the pre-existing divide in the UK, not caused it.
 
Judging by the reaction of our political representatives masters neither of the main parties seem able to unite and provide clear leadership because the result has highlighted the divisions amongst them too.

There's no point in blaming either side for what has happened because in my opinion it has simply demonstrated how out of touch both sides are with the majority of those who voted to leave the EU; 17,410,742 people didn't agree with remaining in the EU. It's time for the politicians to earn their salaries, pull their socks up and get to work to sort out the exit instead of fighting each other.

totally agree

[stephen25000]

Anyone who thinks this country was united before the referendum is naive. Both campaigns lied, anyone who thinks they didn't is naive. I have spoken to people who couldn't work out the best way to vote because they knew that there were lies on both sides. The Scottish people put their trust in the SNP and voted the way they said. Their vote was more to do with that than with Europe, in my opinion.

In the last Election 66% of those eligible voted. The turnout for the referendum was 72%; That's around 3 million people. Perhaps the turnout was higher because people knew their vote was more likely to count. Perhaps they felt more strongly about the EU question.

This result has highlighted the pre-existing divide in the UK, not caused it.
 
Judging by the reaction of our political representatives masters neither of the main parties seem able to unite and provide clear leadership because the result has highlighted the divisions amongst them too.

There's no point in blaming either side for what has happened because in my opinion it has simply demonstrated how out of touch both sides are with the majority of those who voted to leave the EU; 17,410,742 people didn't agree with remaining in the EU. It's time for the politicians to earn their salaries, pull their socks up and get to work to sort out the exit instead of fighting each other.

Of course both campaigns lied, that is already known.

However, I'm afraid the repercussions from this campaign and the fighting in the Tory and Labour parties, will not result in a united front.

The referendum was a mistake by Cameron, trying to appease voters switching  from the Tories to Ukip.

...and anyone who thinks immigration will be stopped is seriously deluded.

[G-Unit]

Of course both campaigns lied, that is already known.

However, I'm afraid the repercussions from this campaign and the fighting in the Tory and Labour parties, will not result in a united front.

The referendum was a mistake by Cameron, trying to appease voters switching  from the Tories to Ukip.

...and anyone who thinks immigration will be stopped is seriously deluded.

I don't see how either party can regain credibility after this. The Conservative leader made a stupid mistake. High ranking Conservatives campaigned for something they didn't really want. The Labour leader campaigned for something he didn't appear to want. The Labour shadow cabinet still don't want to accept that the vote for Corbyn was also a vote against them.

Blair has just said the voters voted for the unknown. He said it was like buying a house you hadn't seen. Some people told the voters the house was fabulous, others said it would fall on them, but they still bought it. He's quite correct. Many people disliked the house we were in so much they actually didn't care what the new house was like, they just wanted out of the old one.

[stephen25000]

I don't see how either party can regain credibility after this. The Conservative leader made a stupid mistake. High ranking Conservatives campaigned for something they didn't really want. The Labour leader campaigned for something he didn't appear to want. The Labour shadow cabinet still don't want to accept that the vote for Corbyn was also a vote against them.

Blair has just said the voters voted for the unknown. He said it was like buying a house you hadn't seen. Some people told the voters the house was fabulous, others said it would fall on them, but they still bought it. He's quite correct. Many people disliked the house we were in so much they actually didn't care what the new house was like, they just wanted out of the old one.

How many of the voters for Brexit even knew what the EU was ?

You should have listened to some of the brexit voters on the phone ins on LBC.

As to Blair, the less said the better.

[rotti]

remainers,we have had 40yrs of eu,now lets have 40yrs of going it alone,then we can make a fair comparison,lets get together both sides and make MADE IN BRITAIN the label the world will want and the label it used to be,

[Holly Goodhead]

I was so convinced of a remain win that I didn't bother voting and when I woke up Fri morning I had forgotten all about it!

Can those that voted leave tell me what they think the advantages are.

Financial markets had factored in a remain.  Sterling and global stock markets fell sharply on Friday.  How can this be good for anyone?  Most hate the idea of being a slave to the 'markets' but they are a bellwether of confidence.  Without confidence businesses will put off investing and hiring.  Individuals will defer purchasing any big ticket items.  If tax receipts fall this will have a knock on effect on public services and add to the deficit. 

The UK could lose its EU financial passport (MiIFID).  Why will the EU allow the UK to retain it when it is no longer a member of the EU?  As much as many loathe bankers, the City and all it represents the financial services industry is a major contributor to the UK economy.

The PM has resigned and it looks like JC is on his way out.  Nicola Sturgeon is looking at another vote on Scottish independence.  How can any of this uncertainty be good for anyone or anything?

Unconvinced  &%+((£

[stephen25000]

A bit of light relief, especially the song at the end of the clip which seems quite poignant.

[Holly Goodhead]

remainers,we have had 40yrs of eu,now lets have 40yrs of going it alone,then we can make a fair comparison,lets get together both sides and make MADE IN BRITAIN the label the world will want and the label it used to be,

Even 'luxury' brands such as Prada are often made in China.