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Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #615 on: June 26, 2016, 11:05:17 PM »
It wasnt even slightly overwhelmng,what a prick

But it was a majority, so unless the law is changed to say how much of a majority is needed then its immaterial, same goes for general elections where we have the ridiculous first past the post system, dont see them claiming the majority wwsnt overwhelming

Obviously this problem wouldnt exist if any govt truly governed with everyones interests in mind

That's correct, even if it had been a one vote majority the UK government would be bound to accept it.

Corbyn will hang on as long as he thinks he can get away with it.  There is not much honour among any MP's these days.
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Offline mercury

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #616 on: June 26, 2016, 11:11:54 PM »
He  blew that away when he thought he could have the top job and have friends as well.
This is true universally
He thought being PM was no harder than going on big brother or something, like a little kid in a sweetshop he was when campaigning to become so,  normally PMs go grey haired after a couple years in the job, his always stayed brown, probably chucked all the slog and decisions to others



Alfie

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #617 on: June 26, 2016, 11:16:21 PM »

To be  fair Churchill did kick the whole thing off with his "we must build a united states of Europe" speech...

http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/astonish.html

Offline mercury

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #618 on: June 26, 2016, 11:18:33 PM »
That's correct, even if it had been a one vote majority the UK government would be bound to accept it.

Corbyn will hang on as long as he thinks he can get away with it.  There is not much honour among any MP's these days.

JC doesnt seem to be or given me any reason to thnk he is not honourable, just because hes not a bully like some of them, people think he has no nous, principles, stamina ,integrity or aces, hes not Blair, hes not Milliband hes not the flapping welsh guy (forget his name), he certainly puts Cameron and others under the thub screws in prime mnsters questions even if they evade and avoid the issues, but hes the bad guy it seems cos he has a beard is old not attractive and loyal to his party
Id defend any tory or any other party member wh has been villified so much for no reason

Pathetic

Alfie

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #619 on: June 26, 2016, 11:20:52 PM »
It doesn't say anything of the sort.
what then is the point you are trying to make with your two graphics?

Alfie

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #620 on: June 26, 2016, 11:28:00 PM »
JC doesnt seem to be or given me any reason to thnk he is not honourable, just because hes not a bully like some of them, people think he has no nous, principles, stamina ,integrity or aces, hes not Blair, hes not Milliband hes not the flapping welsh guy (forget his name), he certainly puts Cameron and others under the thub screws in prime mnsters questions even if they evade and avoid the issues, but hes the bad guy it seems cos he has a beard is old not attractive and loyal to his party
Id defend any tory or any other party member wh has been villified so much for no reason

Pathetic
What matters is not his looks or dress sense nor even principles, stamina and integrity really.  What matters is if he can steer Labour to a victory at the next general election.  Many Labour MPs (who presumably know a bit about these things) fear that he cannot.  It's no good being a principled saint of a leader if you can't actually lead and inspire too

Offline mercury

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #621 on: June 26, 2016, 11:40:19 PM »
What matters is not his looks or dress sense nor even principles, stamina and integrity really.  What matters is if he can steer Labour to a victory at the next general election.  Many Labour MPs (who presumably know a bit about these things) fear that he cannot.  It's no good being a principled saint of a leader if you can't actually lead and inspire too

Are they mystic megs? How do they know Labour cant win a GE with him as leader if the labour message/mission is communicated to the population,and is a winner, surely its the message not who delivers it.

They failed with Milliband twice, what makes them think another floosy/wrong person for the job will lead them to a victory.  More years wasted. COrbyn hasnt even been given half a chance. Quick fixes never work.

As for inspration, well most of the population are s ocynical of the whole political world now , nt just in ths country, it is an uphill struggle for anybody to be clapped by millions. SUch is the damage done by the globalist capitalists


Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #622 on: June 27, 2016, 06:42:56 AM »
Perhaps this will help, though a word of warning - it is from the MSM and not an anonymous blog so no doubt won't pass muster with you on the accuracy stakes.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2016/jun/24/the-areas-and-demographics-where-the-brexit-vote-was-won

The Guardian did lots of lovely maps and dropped lots of hints but;

While the measures demonstrate a strong correlation between a leave vote and education, income and class they are by no means the direct cause of a Brexit.

What you need to remember is;

outside the capital, every English region had a majority for leave.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2016/jun/24/the-areas-and-demographics-where-the-brexit-vote-was-won

It seems those lower class badly educated poorly paid people live...............everywhere.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #623 on: June 27, 2016, 07:02:01 AM »
What matters is not his looks or dress sense nor even principles, stamina and integrity really.  What matters is if he can steer Labour to a victory at the next general election.  Many Labour MPs (who presumably know a bit about these things) fear that he cannot.  It's no good being a principled saint of a leader if you can't actually lead and inspire too

We shall see this week. He was never accepted by those who have stamped off, but he gave them a chance to work with him. From the beginning they have complained and undermined him so they didn't even try. He's still there though and they're not. Perhaps he can appoint a team now who will work with him, perhaps not, but if he wasn't getting messages of support I expect he would have gone by now.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #624 on: June 27, 2016, 07:39:42 AM »
That's correct, even if it had been a one vote majority the UK government would be bound to accept it.

Corbyn will hang on as long as he thinks he can get away with it.  There is not much honour among any MP's these days.

the govt are NOT bound to accept it....you are way off the mark

Offline G-Unit

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #625 on: June 27, 2016, 07:58:11 AM »
the govt are NOT bound to accept it....you are way off the mark

Legally, no. Morally? Well, the morals of our political classes haven't impressed me, but so far they seem to be saying they have accepted it.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #626 on: June 27, 2016, 08:01:31 AM »
Legally, no. Morally? Well, the morals of our political classes haven't impressed me, but so far they seem to be saying they have accepted it.

the most important person...Cameron has not accepted it and has resigned rather than accept it

Offline Mr Gray

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #627 on: June 27, 2016, 08:03:01 AM »
Plot to stop Britain's exit from the EU: Bitter losers from all parties gang up to try to overturn the referendum result - which was voted for by 17 million people

from todays Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

Alfie

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #628 on: June 27, 2016, 08:07:47 AM »
The Guardian did lots of lovely maps and dropped lots of hints but;

While the measures demonstrate a strong correlation between a leave vote and education, income and class they are by no means the direct cause of a Brexit.

What you need to remember is;

outside the capital, every English region had a majority for leave.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2016/jun/24/the-areas-and-demographics-where-the-brexit-vote-was-won

It seems those lower class badly educated poorly paid people live...............everywhere.
yes, and what are you going to tell those who voted for Brexit that the prices of food, clothes and electricals are going to become even less affordable than before, as you have suggested they would and should?!

Alfie

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #629 on: June 27, 2016, 08:09:25 AM »
Boris is telling us there's no rush and seems to want his European cake and eat it now.... &%+((£