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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #60 on: July 16, 2016, 12:11:04 PM »


955,800 black victims of violent crime between 2012-2013

62% of the assailants were.............yeah that's right. (Despite making up only 13.5% of the population.)

Blacks are more of a threat to themselves than the police are.

Black Lives Matter were out protesting in Dallas, blocking the streets calling for dead pigs.

A radicalised black guy (radicalised by BLM) started opening fire on the crowds & the cops, the anti-police protesters ran to the police lines for safety.

The hypocrisy of it.
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Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #61 on: July 16, 2016, 01:31:50 PM »

Are Blacks Disproportionately Involved In Police Shootings?

Listening to liberals like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, you would think that enormous numbers of black men are being gunned down by police officers. When the issue is debated, many take it for granted that a vastly disproportionate number of blacks are involved in police shootings–in fact, if you didn’t know better, you might think that only blacks are ever shot by policemen.

The numbers tell a different story. Like all statistics, they bounce around from year to year, but let’s go with the Washington Post’s study of police shootings in 2015. The Post found that 990 people, almost all of them men, were shot and killed by law enforcement last year. Before you start calling them victims, however, note that the Post also found that in three-quarters of these incidents, police were defending either themselves or someone else who was, at that moment, under attack. That leaves around 250 cases that were not obvious self-defense or defense of a third person. That doesn’t mean, of course, that those shootings were unjustified.

What was the racial breakdown of those who were shot by police in 2015? The largest number, 494, almost exactly half, were white. 258 were black, 172 were Hispanic, and the remaining 66 were either “other” or unknown. (Interestingly, Asians are rarely shot by police officers.)

The 258 blacks represent 26% of the total. That is about double the percentage of blacks in the American population. Is that prima facie evidence of racism on the part of law enforcement? Of course not. It is common knowledge that blacks have an unusually high rate of contact with the police, both as victims and as perpetrators. In 2012-2013, the Department of Justice found that blacks were the perpetrators of 24% of all violent crimes where the race of the perpetrator was known (in 7.8% of violent crimes, it was unknown).

So the percentage of blacks fatally shot by police officers (26%) is almost exactly equal to the percentage of blacks committing violent crimes (24%) [to be clear, that is the percentage of violent crimes committed by blacks, as stated above, which is the relevant comparison]. Indeed, given that the black homicide rate is around eight times the white rate, it is surprising that the portion of blacks fatally shot by policemen is not higher.

Liberals might argue that blacks are disproportionately the victims of unjustified shootings by law enforcement, but I have not seen anyone try seriously to make that case. The Post took a pass at supporting the liberal narrative by arguing that “unarmed” blacks are shot at a higher rate than whites. But the Post failed to note that, according to its own data, blacks are much more likely to attack police officers while unarmed. I don’t know why this is, but in general, I think that unarmed people who assault police officers are likely to be high on drugs. The Post also failed to point out that blacks are much more likely to assault police officers with motor vehicles. That counts as “unarmed.” We had a case like that recently in Minnesota, where a black perpetrator tried to run down a police officer and the officer shot him in self-defense.

One can slice the Post’s 2015 data in various ways. One question is whether there is a racial disparity with regard to whether the policeman or someone else is under direct attack by a perpetrator–i.e., an obvious case of self-defense. I did the math, and it turns out that, for whatever reason, the percentages are a little different for each ethnic group. (You can measure anything by ethnic group, and in all likelihood the numbers won’t be exactly the same. If it is to your political advantage, you can call that difference a “disparity” or a “gap.”)

According to the Post’s numbers–and you should bear in mind that a subjective process of classification lies behind each instance–80% of whites who were fatally shot by police officers in 2015 were in the midst of an attack on the policeman or someone else. According to the Post, 71% of blacks were shot while attacking someone, while 66% of “others” and 62% of Hispanics were shot while attacking the policeman or someone else. If you take these differences seriously, which you probably shouldn’t since re-classifying a small number of instances would dramatically change the results, they might be an argument for discrimination against Hispanics and Asians. Blacks turn out to be a relatively favored group, by this measure.

In short, the data on police shootings show that blacks are involved in such incidents just about exactly as often as one would expect, given their violent crime rate. Slicing and dicing the numbers is interesting, but doesn’t generate any obviously relevant correlations that would change that finding. Which means that, unless someone can make a compelling argument based on the data, which we have not yet seen, the Black Lives Matter movement is founded on a lie.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/07/are-blacks-disproportionately-involved-in-police-shootings.php
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Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #62 on: July 16, 2016, 03:58:09 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxHt91FRk0


'What do we want?  Dead Cops.  When do we want it?  Now'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r3nPGWevR4
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Offline mercury

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2016, 08:58:27 PM »
The biggest killer in the U.S of black males between the ages of 16 to 35 is.......other black males.

You think the police are more likely to shoot blacks, the latest study suggests otherwise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html

Am I saying all black people shot dead by police deserved it?

No, I'm saying, the majority of them are commiting crime, & or evading arrest, & they deserve it, same as white criminals do.

And bullet proof vest for cops is a great idea, just aim for the face instead.

Committing a crime or resisting arrest is not an excuse for being killed...

Vests plus head sheilds then


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2016, 09:03:15 PM »
Committing a crime or resisting arrest is not an excuse for being killed...

Vests plus head sheilds then

So the police were wrong to kill the Dallas shooter?

And that truck driver in France, the police should have just left him to get on with it.
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Offline mercury

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #65 on: July 16, 2016, 09:14:01 PM »
So the police were wrong to kill the Dallas shooter?

And that truck driver in France, the police should have just left him to get on with it.

NO of course not, its chalk and cheese in most situations

If a man is robbing a shop eg, is caught and resists arrest, police have no right to shoot him dead, they can shoot his kneecaps, arms, whatever to disable him if he presents a deadly danger to anyone else, otherwise they act as judge jury and executioner, thats illegal, isnt it?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #66 on: July 16, 2016, 09:43:04 PM »
NO of course not, its chalk and cheese in most situations

If a man is robbing a shop eg, is caught and resists arrest, police have no right to shoot him dead,they can shoot his kneecaps, arms, whatever to disable him if he presents a deadly danger to anyone else, otherwise they act as judge jury and executioner, thats illegal, isnt it?

They're taught to aim for the easiest target, the torso, to stop the threat.

This ain't the movies, you can't waste time trying to aim for small difficult targets like arms or legs, besides, that increases the chances of a stray bullet hitting someone else.

If a police officer has reasonable belief that his or someone elses life is threatened by a criminal, he can use lethal force to defend them/ himself.

As Americans are often armed to the teeth, there tend to be more instances of this happening, even in cases were the crim is later found to be unarmed.

And, an unarmed crim can still pose a lethal threat, like in the Michael Brown case, he tried to take the officers gun from his holster.
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Offline mercury

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #67 on: July 16, 2016, 11:10:57 PM »
They're taught to aim for the easiest target, the torso, to stop the threat.

This ain't the movies, you can't waste time trying to aim for small difficult targets like arms or legs, besides, that increases the chances of a stray bullet hitting someone else.

If a police officer has reasonable belief that his or someone elses life is threatened by a criminal, he can use lethal force to defend them/ himself.

As Americans are often armed to the teeth, there tend to be more instances of this happening, even in cases were the crim is later found to be unarmed.

And, an unarmed crim can still pose a lethal threat, like in the Michael Brown case, he tried to take the officers gun from his holster.

So a licence to kill before trying anything else?
And the black communities are up in arms for no reason?
Its a Bit of a dogs dinner but this is america as they say
Cameron couldnt evenget it right with four nations, obama is getting the blame for trying with 56?

I suppose half the answer is do no crime, but but as I have shown there are examles of no crme beng cmmtted and getting shot dead, that in my book is murder

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2016, 11:22:40 PM »
So a licence to kill before trying anything else?
And the black communities are up in arms for no reason?
Its a Bit of a dogs dinner but this is america as they say
Cameron couldnt evenget it right with four nations, obama is getting the blame for trying with 56?

I suppose half the answer is do no crime, but but as I have shown there are examles of no crme beng cmmtted and getting shot dead, that in my book is murder


Trying what exactly?  Ask them nicely to stop?

You think the arresting officer in the Brown case should have just risked letting the violent criminal take his gun from him?

Yeah, the black communities are up in 'arms', they commit 52% of all homicides.
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Offline mercury

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2016, 11:29:42 PM »
Anything that stops them taking their LIFE

Oh so 48 per cent of all crime is not black related, how many of that percentage of whites are killed because of resisting arrest and the rest of it,

I have to ask you where this bee in your bonnett came from

Im not defending black criminals for what they do but I do think theyre more likely to get killed by police than whte ones
And of course theres the blacks who dd nothng but were killed

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Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2016, 01:14:47 PM »
Black Lives Matter is state sponsored terrorism.

White House RESPONDS to petition to designate Black Lives Matter terrorist group…

As you may have heard, earlier this month a petition was filed with the White House’s “We the People” platform requesting that Black Lives Matter be recognized as a terrorist organization.

In case you need a few quick reminders on some of the Black Lives Matter tactics and why so many suggest they should be labeled as terrorists, here are a few photos:


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After the petition received 141,425 signatures in less than two weeks, the White House responded. And, #ShockingNotShocking, its response read more like a defense of the organization rather than an acknowledgement of its wrongdoings.

“I know that there are some who have criticized even the phrase ‘black lives matter,’ as if the notion is, is that other lives don’t matter. And so you get ‘all lives matter’ or ‘blue lives matter.’ I understand the point they’re trying to make. I think it’s important for us to also understand that the phrase ‘black lives matter’ simply refers to the notion that there’s a specific vulnerability for African Americans that needs to be addressed. It’s not meant to suggest that other lives don’t matter. It’s to suggest that other folks aren’t experiencing this particular vulnerability.

“And so we shouldn’t get too caught up in this notion that somehow people who are asking for fair treatment are somehow, automatically, anti-police, are trying to only look out for black lives as opposed to others. I think we have to be careful about playing that game, just because that’s not obviously what is intended.”


Umm, actually, being anti-police is central to the organization’s mission, policy and tactics, as WZ points out:

Yes, being anti-police is exactly what Black Lives Matter intend. We could talk about the 8 police officers that Black Lives Matter supporters have actually killed, including the two officers assasinated in NYC, one in Kentucky, and the five in Dallas.  We could talk about the dozens of assaults on police, including those just this past weekend, where 21 officers were injured by BLM attackers, one who threw a molotov coctail and another who dropped a concrete block on an officer’s head in St. Paul, Minnesota. 

But just as a matter of policy, BLM and many of their subsidiary organizations actually call for defunding, disarming and disbanding with police, so yes, you can’t get a more ‘anti-police’ organization. It is a functional part of their demands.


But, perhaps just like the White House claims the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam, the White House wants us to buy the bovine excrement that Black Lives Matter is not anti-police — despite its stated anti-police policies and tactics [see above].

The White House response further quoted from President Obama’s now-infamous-for-its-despicableness words at the so-called memorial for the five slain Dallas police officers:

“But even those who dislike the phrase ‘Black Lives Matter,’ surely we should be able to hear the pain of Alton Sterling’s family … and know that his life mattered to a whole lot of people of all races, of all ages, and that we have to do what we can, without putting officers’ lives at risk, but do better to prevent another life like his from being lost.

“With an open heart, we can worry less about which side has been wronged, and worry more about joining sides to do right. Because the vicious killer of these police officers, they won’t be the last person who tries to make us turn on one other. The killer in Orlando wasn’t, nor was the killer in Charleston. We know there is evil in this world. That’s why we need police departments. But as Americans, we can decide that people like this killer will ultimately fail. They will not drive us apart. We can decide to come together and make our country reflect the good inside us, the hopes and simple dreams we share.”


And here’s the kicker: the White House’s excuse for not taking action against an organization they not only condone but openly support:

The White House plays no role in designating domestic terror organizations. The U.S. government does not generate a list of domestic terror organizations, and therefore we are not able to address the formal request of your petition. We encourage you to engage with your community in the ongoing discussion of how we can better build trust and safety in our communities.

So suddenly, Mr. I-can-do-whatever-I-want-through-executive-order seems to have lost his pen and his phone? Never mind that the FBI — which, last I checked, actually reported into the president — freely discusses the threat of domestic terrorism from “right-wing extremism,” while our Department of Homeland Security has its own program for “Countering Violent Extremism,” which indeed includes domestic terrorists and homegrown violent extremists. Even if they may not have a formal designation as they do for foreign terror organizations, the White House claim of “we don’t have a role in that” is one big-time, blatant cop-out.

Its response just confirmed what we already know, which is that under the Obama administration, Black Lives Matter qualifies as state-sponsored terrorism.

http://www.allenbwest.com/michellejesse/white-house-responds-to-petition-to-designate-black-lives-matter-terrorist-group
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Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #72 on: July 17, 2016, 09:11:29 PM »


Three Police Officers Dead, Three Wounded in Shooting in Baton Rouge



Three police officers are dead and three others injured after a shooting Sunday morning in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, officials said.

One suspect is dead and police believe two other suspects may be at large, the East Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office said.

The shooting happened around 8:45 a.m. in the Old Hammond area -- less than a mile from police headquarters, officials said. The incident began when officers responded to a 911 call reporting that someone was walking around with a gun, officials said




 Five police officers were taken to Our Lady of the Lake Medical Center in Baton Rouge Sunday morning, hospital spokeswoman Kelly Zimmerman said. Three of the officers died, one was in critical condition and another was in fair condition, she said. The condition of the third injured officer was not immediately clear.

Louisiana Gov. Jon Bel Edwards said in a statement, "This is an unspeakable and unjustified attack on all of us at a time when we need unity and healing.

"Rest assured, every resource available to the state of Louisiana will be used to ensure the perpetrators are brought swiftly to justice," Edwards said.

The Sunday morning shootings come in the wake of the death of Alton Sterling, a black man who was shot and killed after an altercation with Baton Rouge police officers on July 5. Sterling's death and the police-involved death of a black man in Minnesota a day later sparked nationwide protests. Then on July 7, a gunman targeted police officers at a protest in Dallas, killing five officers and wounding others.



 In the wake of Sterling's death, there were calls to "purge" cops in Baton Rouge.

A warning issued by the FBI's New Orleans field office on July 7 mentioned "threats to law enforcement and potential threats to the safety of the general public" stemming from Sterling's shooting.

One image on social media said the Baton Rouge "purge" would start July 9 at midnight and end July 10 at 5 a.m.

The FBI said the information was not officially confirmed but was issued to alert law enforcement to be aware.

Last week, Alton Sterling's 15-year-old son, Cameron Sterling, urged Baton Rouge residents to "protest in peace."

Meanwhile, the Louisiana State Police Department is leading the investigation into the Sunday morning shooting.

The FBI New Orleans office said it "has personnel on scene in Baton Rouge to assist our law enforcement colleagues. At this time, our focus is to help identify and bring to justice those who are responsible for this heinous act."

The Department of Homeland Security said it is "in contact with the FBI, Baton Rouge law enforcement, and our fusion center partners there, and the Secretary has directed that the full weight of the Department's resources be made available."

President Obama said, "I condemn, in the strongest sense of the word, the attack on law enforcement in Baton Rouge.  For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault.  These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop."

He said he has offered the support of the federal government to state and local authorities in Louisiana.

"And make no mistake – justice will be done," he said. "We may not yet know the motives for this attack, but I want to be clear:  there is no justification for violence against law enforcement.  None.  These attacks are the work of cowards who speak for no one.  They right no wrongs.  They advance no causes.  The officers in Baton Rouge; the officers in Dallas –- they were our fellow Americans, part of our community, part of our country, with people who loved and needed them, and who need us now -– all of us -– to be at our best."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-officers-dead-shooting-baton-rouge/story?id=40646533
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Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2016, 12:26:58 AM »

Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel

A Youtube account operated by Gavin Eugene Long and discovered by The Daily Caller reveals key insight into what might have motivated the 29-year-old black man who killed three Baton Rouge police officers Sunday morning.

Videos on Long’s account show that he was a former Nation of Islam member. He also ranted against “crackers” and made references to Alton Sterling, the black man killed by police in Baton Rouge on July 5.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/17/baton-rouge-shooter-gavin-eugene-long-was-nation-of-islam-member-railed-against-crackers-on-youtube-channel-video/#ixzz4EiB0zVDf
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Offline mercury

Re: US police killing black people like flies??
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2016, 01:15:21 AM »
Now i read its the "new black panthers" a group labelled as worse than the originals and the black version of kkk

Shivering

What a horrible mess

Politics using tragedies for evil politics


But you were rght ws in an earlier post, obama it seems is doing fk all
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