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Offline slartibartfast

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #300 on: October 18, 2016, 10:23:47 PM »
There was NO corroboration in any way to Eddies alerts.

As far as we are aware, Keela was NOT shown the things that Eddie (supposedly) alerted to.

It was essential that SHE was shown the things that Eddie alerted to.
1)  If she also alerted then they were both alerting to decaying blood from a living person
2)  Is she was shown the things Eddie alerted to, BUT she did not, then it was possible that it was cadaver odour. 

However, it appears from videos and reports that she was not shown the things that Eddie alerted to, so no conclusions could be properly made as to what he was alerting to ... and but for Amarals fertile imagination nobody would have thought Cadaver Odour at all.

The whole thing is a nonsense.  A huge myth based upon Amarals fertile imagination IMO

Unless you can prove that Keela was NOT shown the things that Eddie alerted to, as Grime said that was how the search would be carried out, you are engaged in unfounded speculation and should stop.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #301 on: October 18, 2016, 10:26:54 PM »
Bar human remains there is NO SUCH THING as corroborating evidence for eddie's alerts
That is true but as a detective one would use the intelligence gained to either encourage a confession or to possibly point to where the body could have gone next.  (I have thought the next place would be to an funeral home where they could embalm the body.)  I wonder if Amaral thought along the same line? Where did he think the McCann's took the cadaver (whoever it was) if they had it in the back of the rental car?  From memory there is talk of travelling to Spain.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #302 on: October 18, 2016, 10:29:15 PM »
Sometime within the last year I would guess.
If it was the subject of an attack by the delayed eraser then it has gorn for good.
It was fun at the time so onward and upward. There will always be more corporation flags and mill ponds to lob them into... 8(>((
What word would be in the post, like a particular key word that you recall please?

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Offline mercury

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #303 on: October 18, 2016, 10:36:37 PM »
There was NO corroboration in any way to Eddies alerts.

As far as we are aware, Keela was NOT shown the things that Eddie (supposedly) alerted to.

It was essential that SHE was shown the things that Eddie alerted to.
1)  If she also alerted then they were both alerting to decaying blood from a living person
2)  Is she was shown the things Eddie alerted to, BUT she did not, then it was possible that it was cadaver odour. 

However, it appears from videos and reports that she was not shown the things that Eddie alerted to, so no conclusions could be properly made as to what he was alerting to ... and but for Amarals fertile imagination nobody would have thought Cadaver Odour at all.

The whole thing is a nonsense.  A huge myth based upon Amarals fertile imagination IMO

Sadie still spreading myths that keela didnt examine the alert areas of eddie aka wardrobe in mccanns apt and clothes when videos were already provided to her a fee days ago is disgusting

Btw sadie there is no corroborating evidence for dead body scent why do so many prople fail to get that in their grey matter
« Last Edit: October 18, 2016, 10:47:43 PM by mercury »

Offline mercury

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #304 on: October 18, 2016, 10:38:58 PM »
That is true but as a detective one would use the intelligence gained to either encourage a confession or to possibly point to where the body could have gone next.  (I have thought the next place would be to an funeral home where they could embalm the body.)  I wonder if Amaral thought along the same line? Where did he think the McCann's took the cadaver (whoever it was) if they had it in the back of the rental car?  From memory there is talk of travelling to Spain.

Who knows
The mccanns had a 5 hour window of opportunity

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #305 on: October 18, 2016, 11:35:01 PM »
That is true but as a detective one would use the intelligence gained to either encourage a confession or to possibly point to where the body could have gone next.  (I have thought the next place would be to an funeral home where they could embalm the body.)  I wonder if Amaral thought along the same line? Where did he think the McCann's took the cadaver (whoever it was) if they had it in the back of the rental car?  From memory there is talk of travelling to Spain.
Kindly look up the requirements for conducting a funeral, for cremating a body, for re-patriating a dead person to the UK.

The details are many.  The gist is simple.  You get 48 hours.
What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #306 on: October 18, 2016, 11:42:31 PM »
Sadie still spreading myths that keela didnt examine the alert areas of eddie aka wardrobe in mccanns apt and clothes when videos were already provided to her a fee days ago is disgusting

Btw sadie there is no corroborating evidence for dead body scent why do so many prople fail to get that in their grey matter
We have videos of the apartment searches and the clothes searches in the gym.

Show me
(1) the places and articles that Eddie alerted to being shown to Keela ... and
(2) Keela NOT alerting to these places

Then I will agree there might be cadaver odour there, subject to Forensic testing.

Offline mercury

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #307 on: October 19, 2016, 12:09:04 AM »
We have videos of the apartment searches and the clothes searches in the gym.

Show me
(1) the places and articles that Eddie alerted to being shown to Keela ... and
(2) Keela NOT alerting to these places

Then I will agree there might be cadaver odour there, subject to Forensic testing.

I already showed you a couple days ago and my question is why you ignored it

KEELA was in the video tracing places eddie alresdy alerted to!!!
And my question to whatever mod was involved is why did you delete it???

« Last Edit: October 19, 2016, 12:30:44 AM by mercury »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #308 on: October 19, 2016, 02:35:11 AM »
Who knows
The mccanns had a 5 hour window of opportunity
What from 5:00 - 10:00 PM  What plus the help of their friends?  What are you implying.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #309 on: October 19, 2016, 02:37:56 AM »
Kindly look up the requirements for conducting a funeral, for cremating a body, for repatriating a dead person to the UK.

The details are many.  The gist is simple.  You get 48 hours.
Any other clues as to what to look up?
It would be strange to have such a hard and fast time limit.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #310 on: October 19, 2016, 05:18:24 AM »
Any other clues as to what to look up?
It would be strange to have such a hard and fast time limit.
I don't care.  I have checked the regs on what happens if someone dies out here.  The bottom line is you get 48 hours to sort it out.

Relevance to Madeleine = body being cremated, because it was not going to hang about for long.

Relevance to me = I would need a funeral director very quickly, because the law does not allow one to delay.
What's up, old man?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #311 on: October 19, 2016, 05:28:17 AM »
I don't care.  I have checked the regs on what happens if someone dies out here.  The bottom line is you get 48 hours to sort it out.

Relevance to Madeleine = body being cremated, because it was not going to hang about for long.

Relevance to me = I would need a funeral director very quickly, because the law does not allow one to delay.
What I meant was how do I find the reference to that law?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #312 on: October 19, 2016, 07:43:27 AM »
Kindly look up the requirements for conducting a funeral, for cremating a body, for re-patriating a dead person to the UK.

The details are many.  The gist is simple.  You get 48 hours.

Is this for Portugal? Do you have a cite?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #313 on: October 19, 2016, 07:48:18 AM »
I don't care.  I have checked the regs on what happens if someone dies out here.  The bottom line is you get 48 hours to sort it out.

Relevance to Madeleine = body being cremated, because it was not going to hang about for long.

Relevance to me = I would need a funeral director very quickly, because the law does not allow one to delay.

48 hours to report a death. 72 for the funeral.

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Under normal circumstances, burial or cremation must take place within 72 hours of death and can only happen once the death has been reported.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A fresh look at Eddie the cadaver dog and those alerts.
« Reply #314 on: October 19, 2016, 08:26:09 AM »
48 hours to report a death. 72 for the funeral.
"Under normal circumstances, burial or cremation must take place in Portugal within 72 hours of death. Where there has been a post mortem examination, burial or cremation must be carried out within 48 hours of the body being released. The law does not specify a timescale for repatriation."

For those interested in the detail https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/514423/Death_Procedures_in_Portugal_September_2015.pdf
What's up, old man?