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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #840 on: January 30, 2017, 07:52:05 PM »
I have been on here on and off today---and I would say , a lot of "off", but I haven't seen anything that was libellous, or rude to the mods.  Will someone PM me and tell me what it was?  I'm nosy!

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #841 on: January 30, 2017, 08:02:28 PM »

Well, is someone going to enlighten me then?

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #842 on: January 30, 2017, 08:04:34 PM »
And, perhaps, as well as enlightening me, someone might show me how to add a smiley!

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #843 on: January 30, 2017, 08:08:06 PM »
Have you not got them all in from of you when you post?????

Should be a load of yellow emoji's just above the post box...... click on which one suits.... ?{)(** ?{)(** ?{)(** ?{)(** ?{)(** ?{)(** ?{)(** ?{)(**

If you haven't got them you'll need to turn them on in your profile if i remember correctly 8(>((

I've attached a picture of what it looks like when i reply mrswah... does yours look the same????

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #844 on: January 30, 2017, 08:30:08 PM »
I knew that Braid was a video game and that a shard of console had been found, that was my conection to the video game, But I don't know when they first called it operation braid....

The earliest reference to "Operation Braid" that I can link dates from Tuesday 21st December 2010:

http://swns.com/news/parents-of-missing-25-year-old-bristol-woman-launch-plea-for-help-12546/

The code name is given in the last paragraph of the news report in this link. I used to have a reference from the day Joanna was reported missing itself, that was a Monday, but it seems to have been removed from the internet.

No explanation for this cryptic code name was made public. I cannot think of any reason why it should have been prompted by the discovery of part of a console in Joanna's flat, as there are presumably many video games and many other possible ways to assign a name. Of all the names in all the world, why did the police choose "Braid?"

The link to a description of the game that I posted earlier today, in the post that was removed entirely, is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game)

There are three significant points about this:

(1) The game is about the search for a princess who has been "snatched". If Joanna had left of her own accord, then "Braid" was a tasteless choice of name. Therefore it seems probable that the police were already convinced that Joanna had actually been "snatched" - as indeed we know she had. It seems probable, therefore, that Greg Reardon had told the police that he had found the evidence of a struggle in the flat, which he would later describe in court. However, in public, this was left open. Not until Thursday 23rd December 2010 did her parents make public their own belief that she had been abducted.

(2) The central person who has been snatched is a "princess". Joanna's disappearance rapidly became a topic of such national importance that it was as if she WAS a princess. The Policeman subsequently defended all the publicity given to her disappearance by the need to mobilise the public in order to report anything and everything that might help find her. It seems probable that this massive publicity plan was already at the front of their minds when they decided to use the code name "Operation Braid".

(3) A peculiarity of this game is that the character of each of the protagonists is volatile and can change radically in the course of the play. Those searching for Joanna and those searching for her killer certainly came and went like the pieces in a kaleidescope.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #845 on: January 30, 2017, 08:45:10 PM »
The earliest reference to "Operation Braid" that I can link dates from Tuesday 21st December 2010:

http://swns.com/news/parents-of-missing-25-year-old-bristol-woman-launch-plea-for-help-12546/

The code name is given in the last paragraph of the news report in this link. I used to have a reference from the day Joanna was reported missing itself, that was a Monday, but it seems to have been removed from the internet.

No explanation for this cryptic code name was made public. I cannot think of any reason why it should have been prompted by the discovery of part of a console in Joanna's flat, as there are presumably many video games and many other possible ways to assign a name. Of all the names in all the world, why did the police choose "Braid?"

The link to a description of the game that I posted earlier today, in the post that was removed entirely, is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_(video_game)

There are three significant points about this:

(1) The game is about the search for a princess who has been "snatched". If Joanna had left of her own accord, then "Braid" was a tasteless choice of name. Therefore it seems probable that the police were already convinced that Joanna had actually been "snatched" - as indeed we know she had. It seems probable, therefore, that Greg Reardon had told the police that he had found the evidence of a struggle in the flat, which he would later describe in court. However, in public, this was left open. Not until Thursday 23rd December 2010 did her parents make public their own belief that she had been abducted.

(2) The central person who has been snatched is a "princess". Joanna's disappearance rapidly became a topic of such national importance that it was as if she WAS a princess. The Policeman subsequently defended all the publicity given to her disappearance by the need to mobilise the public in order to report anything and everything that might help find her. It seems probable that this massive publicity plan was already at the front of their minds when they decided to use the code name "Operation Braid".

(3) A peculiarity of this game is that the character of each of the protagonists is volatile and can change radically in the course of the play. Those searching for Joanna and those searching for her killer certainly came and went like the pieces in a kaleidescope.

Yes I agree, the Police do name Operations names for a reason... But I'm not sure what the reason behind naming this Operation "Braid"....


But I must admit when ever I look for anything to do with the word "Braid"... it comes to the video game... or a hairstyle...

 I never understood why her mum insisted she was abducted!!

EDIT:....... thought I'd use the font of all knowledge.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_theory


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Braids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Braiding   (computing)

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #846 on: January 30, 2017, 09:49:21 PM »
They eliminated Greg quickly because they knew he had been away in Sheffield. They must have checked him out. He is the first person they would have checked.
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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #847 on: January 31, 2017, 01:13:50 AM »
Jixy... Same old Question....  How can the searches be his if he wasn't at home to do TWO of the searches which was shown in court!!!!!!

I still think that it's more probable that she was killed later than what has been suggested... especially as Greg needed to check what clothes she was wearing... that suggests he's seen the clothes she wore that day to work were at home....


She could have quite easily have left the flat with someone she knew..!!!

I have also said before that I didn't agree with the manslaughter... and I'm sure if Sally Ramage had read the 1300 page Document her mind would also be changed!!!

She never left the flat because her personal effects were found in the flat.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #848 on: January 31, 2017, 01:17:48 AM »

What comments were posted about Joanna Yeates today????

And Eleanor, It is a sad fact that a young lady lost her life.... Nothing can remedy that,, a terrible tragedy...

But I feel that it wasn't Dr Vincent Tabak who did this crime... and if it wasn't him it was someone else, maybe it's the DNA profile that was found on Joanna Yeates!!!

I understand we may not agree... But why haven't the prosecution brought any concrete evidence to court to show that Dr Vincent Tabak was either going over Clifton Suspenion Bridge or From Bedminster to Longwood Lane...

They had a blurry picture of his car on PARK STREET!!!!!

Nothing of substance was brought to court to prove it was Dr Vincent Tabak...

And why would the prosecution with hold the 1300 page document until the last minute??????

If Tabak is the innocent angel that some appear to believe he is then why did he not shout out from the heavens at his trial that he was the victim of a conspiracy and never voluntarily signed any confession?  Truth being he did sign it voluntarily because he thought he would get a kick up the backside and an eight to twelve year incarceration with the possibilty of release at the half-way stage for throttling the life out of that beautiful young girl.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2017, 01:19:56 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #849 on: January 31, 2017, 01:43:16 AM »
Despite several warnings some members are still posting libellous comments on this thread.  If this continues the thread will be removed as will be the members concerned. 

This is a final warning!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #850 on: January 31, 2017, 06:44:48 AM »
She never left the flat because her personal effects were found in the flat.


That is not necessarily true John.  She could easily have been killed before ever getting back to her flat, or she could have been abducted afterwards.  The killer would then  be in possession of her keys, and it would not have been difficult for that person to place her belongings back in her flat.

As I have previously pointed out, had she been attacked and killed in her flat by VT, his fingerprints/DNA would have been all over it.  The prosecution would have had a far more convincing case, as they would not have had to rely on enhanced DNA (which could not be challenged, as the sample was used up in the enhancement process).

If Jo was killed in her flat, somebody other than VT must have done it.

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #851 on: January 31, 2017, 06:53:23 AM »
If Tabak is the innocent angel that some appear to believe he is then why did he not shout out from the heavens at his trial that he was the victim of a conspiracy and never voluntarily signed any confession?  Truth being he did sign it voluntarily because he thought he would get a kick up the backside and an eight to twelve year incarceration with the possibilty of release at the half-way stage for throttling the life out of that beautiful young girl.
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He had every chance then and as time goes on he still hasn't even mentioned the word conspiracy or challenged it. Unlike the 145 pictures. Both the legal team and himself did find a voice to try and stop that! He wasn't the incapable 'placid' Tabak then.

As John says he pinned his hopes on a lesser sentence. His google searches  in the very plea he went with also back this up!

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #852 on: January 31, 2017, 07:01:33 AM »
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He had every chance then and as time goes on he still hasn't even mentioned the word conspiracy or challenged it. Unlike the 145 pictures. Both the legal team and himself did find a voice to try and stop that! He wasn't the incapable 'placid' Tabak then.

As John says he pinned his hopes on a lesser sentence. His google searches  in the very plea he went with also back this up!


I know the defence barrister (Dean Armstrong QC) challenged the 145 pictures, but I am not aware that VT did.

Do you have a link for that, Jixy?

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #853 on: January 31, 2017, 09:18:14 AM »
I have removed the libellous posts made this morning and locked this thread until admin can decide further action.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Re: Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates
« Reply #854 on: January 31, 2017, 09:39:48 AM »
I have removed the libellous posts made this morning and locked this thread until admin can decide further action.

Thank you, I have dealt with this.  Not a shred of evidence has been provided in support of the opening post, instead all that has been raised are allegations of impropriety against basically anyone associated with the Tabak prosecution.  Tabak admitted killing Joanna Yeates and he is apparently of sound mind so it must be accepted.

I have unlocked this thread in the hope we can return to proper debate by members who are prepared to comply with the forum rules.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2017, 10:04:15 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.