Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

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Smoke an mirror's ......

If you use enough of them to confuse people who are happy to agree with what the media say, then you have created enough doubt or proof for the public to agree it must have been him....

The funny and not in a humrous way is... when people say that Cj was vilified by the media...
Well...

Doesn't the same apply to Dr Vincent Tabak??? They just thought they could do this after they thought it was safe to do so....

After they put him in prison!

[jixy]

OMG you two really have  a sick fascination with murder don't you?

Firstly smoke and mirrors? Hmmm so anyone quotes a word from the court case and its smoke and mirrors and we are believing the media yet you two can both make up quotes scenarios thoughts and feelings that don't even appear anywhere but inside your head, and that isn't smoke and mirrors? really?

Chris Jefferies was INNOCENT. Vincent Tabak is NOT! He admitted it. His DNA was on her body yet you say he never saw her that night? wow how does that happen

I say they waved to each other. You say no one beckoned. Im sorry but who and where does it imply anyone did that? smoke and mirrors to distract from your argument that she opened the door to a total stranger and wouldn't do so!

As Alfie has already pointed out, they were neighbours who at the very least were aware of each other and 'waving' proved it. But oh no he lied about that too

So lets think about it. He lied about going to the flat, waving, thinking she wanted a kiss but didn't so he panicked and strangled her then dumping her body. He lied about Chris and his activities but when he explained he was stressed and wanted the heat off of himself that too was lies. Oh and when he said sorry for putting Joanna's family through a week of hell, that too was a lie

He came up with that in the hope of being convicted of manslaughter, getting a lighter sentence. Not because he was being tortured pressured or drugged or any other mad scenario you two have dreamt up with nothing, not one thing to back it up! Its all in your head

There is no reason to do any of the above other than to save your own skin, which he tried and failed

Nothing you have posted helps prove anything but guilt. Your smoke and mirrors routine/double act is quite boring and by replying with what we know to be truth is just giving a platform to carry on the charade

His DNA on her body? now that is one thing he couldn't possible make up.

Not for one minute can you compare the treatment of Tabak to an innocent landlord dragged into it by someone with an ulterior motive!

Poor Joanna Poor Mr Jefferies.... Vincent Tabak got exactly what he deserved!

[Alfie]

Absolutely spot on Jixy!

[mrswah]

I certainly do NOT have a "sick fascination with murder", Jixy.

If you do not want to give Nine and I a "platform" as you put it, why are you still bothering to reply to us? There are lots of other threads on this site: we have even "met" on one or two of them.

I get it:  you believe the official version.  Fair enough.  I don't.  Also fair enough.  I respect your views, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them.

To say that someone has a sick fascination with murder is rude. 

I am not rude to you.

[jixy]

Defending his every move wanting to write to him? denying what is so obvious to everyone else including Tabak hence his confession. That's not sick and its not an obsession?

I actually value life and don't think anyone has a right to murder someone then dump their body

You obviously don't. Happy writing to a murderer. why would you want to. That IS sick!

The reason I replied to your horrendous comments is in the name of an innocent girl murdered for no real reason

You still haven't answered any questions in full but once again deflect back to posters.

Given all that has been stated why is he innocent again? come on real answers please....if you can? start with the DNA...go on lets!

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I've replied in the fullest possible way when, when i have made comments, I have never made it personal about anyone on this forum, that is not how I behave,

I obviously disagree with your view jixy, and if you actually read what Ive written   I quite often have answered your  questions..

I'm not here to be abused, but that in itself won't stop how I see things..... or posting..

I am not unaware that an Innocent girl lost her life... And to suppose that is naive of you...

And I'm not here to have an online arguement....

Ive simply tried to show that Dr Vincent Tabak is innocent in my opinion... as i have said before we obviously disagree... And you are not prepared to even believe that Innocent people do and have pleaded guilty to crimes that they have not committed...

Youve suddenly started shouting jixy,  you obviously feel passionate about it too....

Because most people seem to have forgotten about poor Joanna yeates, because when you mention it, there reply is virtually always....

Oh, you mean the one where the Landlord got arrested... CJ is who they remember, not an Innocent girl that was murdered....

[mrswah]

Jixy

Believe it or not, I don't think anyone has a right to murder someone and dump their body either.

Many people DO write to people in prison in order to try to find out the truth----I was on a thread the other day where someone was putting questions to a prisoner. Can't remember whether or not you were also on it; perhaps not.

I object to being called "sick".   Nor do I write "horrendous comments".   Nor am I rude to you, but you are now being rude to me.

As to your wanting to talk about DNA," enhanced" DNA, which is what they had in the Tabak case, is not as foolproof as you might think.  Go onto You Tube, and listen to Professor Dan Crane. 

He knows what he is talking about , even if I dont.!!!!!!

[mrswah]

My apologies:  it is Dan Krane !

[Kayden Paradox]

So how do you explain why VT's gf's father who is a lawyer and most probably in a better place than you and I to see any wrong doings by the authorities and yet he obviously didn't see any impropriety in how VT was dealt with? In fact at the end of the trial he was extremely grateful that his daughter hadn't become another victim .

[mrswah]

We dont actually know what he thinks: we only know what was reported in the papers!

[jixy]

once again no answers that back up your view. No surprise there any more than when one of your appears the other soon follows saying exactly the same.

im not shouting, I was following your lead of using capital letters when you are getting your point acroos. Neither have I been rude. I state things as they appear, looked at both sides etc something that you seem not to do

Naïve? far from it but then I don't post with a hidden agenda or with 'wrongs' on my own mind that clearly can be an issue and cloud the views of others

Lets pretend because we seem to like doing this...

So he is mistreated by a bad man or woman who forces him to confess? so he goes into detail offering information that he didn't need to along with explanations for his actions (to save himself) even goes to the point of explaining why he did what he did to Mr Jefferies and saying sorry to the parents.

That goes way beyond what he would need to if a confession was beaten or drugged out of him. Isnt it kind of him to leave his DNA on Joanna then make himself fit the movements of the real killer without having any knowledge of Joanna or the crime.

You carrying on cancelling out all the evidence his confession his internet searches, go ahead. He is guilty and can stay in prison dealing with that fact. Thankfully justice has been done and you wont be able to change that will silly ramblings

[jixy]

Kayden, the Father was able to do that as a sensible level headed man, who looked at the case and all the facts and realised what kind of man he is

Pleased that his Daughter was safe he had no further job to do!

[Kayden Paradox]

  Now if you were a lawyer and could see your daughters bf being set up, as you seem to think and god knows why. You would be shouting from the highest hill, getting alternative legal counsel, in fact you would be doing just about everything possible to show this. So why don't we see any of this...easy answer, there is no miscarriage of justice. Well only in the eyes of you two. By the way, it just goes to show how you both are still just picking and choosing from the media/internet etc just so it fits into your own scenario.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I certainly do NOT have a "sick fascination with murder", Jixy.

If you do not want to give Nine and I a "platform" as you put it, why are you still bothering to reply to us? There are lots of other threads on this site: we have even "met" on one or two of them.

I get it:  you believe the official version.  Fair enough.  I don't.  Also fair enough.  I respect your views, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them.

To say that someone has a sick fascination with murder is rude. 

I am not rude to you.

I agree with this insinuation is being rude regards Mrswah.

 There are many reasons why people want to communicate with convicted murderers, one of them being a sick fascination, others reasons are: they are related to the person, and in denial,some because they believe a mis carriage of justice has  taken place. On a personal level, I would not ever conduct a communication with such people.

I accept without exception that the right person for the crime of murder is in the correct place.

[Alfie]

Tabak's fan club should write to him and see if he writes back protesting his innocence.  I doubt he will somehow and I doubt that even if he wrote back and said "actually I did do it" that it would make any difference to these ladies ( I assume you're ladies?)