Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

[Leonora]

Mr Lickley said forensic archaeologist Karl Harrison considered how Miss Yeates was found, especially regarding leaves and snow around and on her body.

Mr Lickley said: "After her death, she was placed on a verge, laying on a layer of leaf matter. Following her deposition leaves were placed around her and tucked in around her sides, compressed against her body.

"A layer of snow fell, sealing the leaf litter. A little time was taken to place the body of Joanna Yeates before she was left at the scene."


Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/joanna-yeates-fought-killer/story-13538504-detail/story.html#657kCmb7ZmU9bH5T.99

https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/people/dr-karl-harrison-466715

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He is on the sex offenders' register, so I don't think he can.

Well well well..... That just about sums it up doesn't it....

So the Child porn was to do with him not being allowed to go to Holland, rather than saving any children who may be in dangers......

Why are they trying their hardest to stop Dr Vincent Tabak from talking basically....

Question:... Does Dr Vincent Tabak even realise that he can't apply to go back to his native country????

So the child porn on file can be brought to the forefront at any time.....  Let hazzard a guess as to when that might be.. about 2025..(IMO)

My God... I feel frustrated , so I don't know how Dr Vincent Tabak must feel....  It's almost like a gag order... If he's not able to go to Holland then, he's not able to tell anyone what actually happened to him...

Basically I just think when he eventually gets to go to Holland or released then enough time will have passed where most people won't give a damn whether or not he was Guilty or INNOCENT!!!

So with all the lies that have been told.. all the inconsistencies in the evidence the demonising of Dr Vincent Tabak.. Someone is hoping no-one will do anything about this...

Obviously people believe they have covered all the angles, but they have NOT!!! more people need to be made aware as to what has happened to Dr Vincent Tabak in my opinion..

Another question.... I have this same question when I watch Crime programmes, when people commit the most horrendous atrocities and i always say:

How can they live with themselves?????????  Lets just think about that...... How on God's green earth can these people sleep at night....

I never understood how people in this world trample on other people to get to the top... But it's obviously human nature...

Karma springs to mind!!! 

[jixy]

When his girlfriend and Brother went to see him why didn't they take the chance to help him and highlight his plight

There is no proof whatsoever he was gagged then or to this day!

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Mr Lickley said forensic archaeologist Karl Harrison considered how Miss Yeates was found, especially regarding leaves and snow around and on her body.

Mr Lickley said: "After her death, she was placed on a verge, laying on a layer of leaf matter. Following her deposition leaves were placed around her and tucked in around her sides, compressed against her body.

"A layer of snow fell, sealing the leaf litter. A little time was taken to place the body of Joanna Yeates before she was left at the scene."


Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/joanna-yeates-fought-killer/story-13538504-detail/story.html#657kCmb7ZmU9bH5T.99

https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/people/dr-karl-harrison-466715

Just looking at the article and I found something interesting.....

Tests revealed Miss Yeates had 67 milligrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood. The limit for driving is 80. The court heard her brain showed a reduction in oxygenated blood and the last meal she ate proved to be the cheesy chips she ate with her boyfriend Greg Reardon at lunchtime on December 17, in the Hope and Anchor pub.


Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/joanna-yeates-fought-killer/story-13538504-detail/story.html#udTLtdV[Name removed]4v5IdKI.99

Now we covered the cheesy chips and how it was impossible for them to be still in her stomach contenets... But we never covered the Alchohol....

I presume the alcohol tests were done when the stomach contents where done in Glasgow... And this is were the Important stuff lies...

Tests revealed Miss Yeates had 67 milligrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of blood.

I was looking at the 67 mill in 100 mill and can across the drink drive limits.... So in ENGLAND...

England & Wales Drink Driving Limit

The maximum BAC (blood alcohol content) limit in England & Wales is:

35 microgrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath
OR
80 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood
OR
107 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine

So I thought 67 mill in 100 mill doesn't apply to ENGLAND... then I remember she had tests done in Glasgow... So Scotland:....

Scotland Drink Driving Limit

The maximum BAC (blood alcohol content) limit in Scotland is:

22 microgrammes of alcohol in 100 millilitres of breath
OR
50 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood
OR
67 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine

Did you notice that....!!!!!

67 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of urine

   It's the amount in Urine not blood... How did she have exactly the right number of milligrams in a test,.....


So it's a drink drive limit in Scotland and not the exact amount of alcohol in Joanna Yeates system (IMO)

That is mental!!!!!!

The limit for driving is 80.

 Yes 80 when you use English Limits, But you used Scottish Calculations to calculate her alcohol content.... And that was in urine NOT Blood!!!!
So if we are talking Blood in Scotland... she was over the limit.. By quite a margin...

50 milligrams of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood

Who has guessed what her ALCOHOL Content is?????? Because it doesn't appear accurate!!..

So she could have drunk that bottle of Tattinger Reims Champagne that the cork was seen in the Crime Scene photo's...

How many pints did they say that Joanna Yeates drank... because I know she drank pints of beer and not halves... Pictures of her in Stuttgard she her drinking pints..


The really odd thing about the alcohol in her system is it EQUALS the Scottish Drink Drive Limit...  I would have expected the number to be more random than that!!!!!




https://www.drinkdriving.org/drink_driving_information_bloodalcoholcontentcalculator.php

Edit:... 67 out of 100 sounds random in English drink drive limits and that probably why no one questioned it....

But the number is NOT RANDOM... it's Scottish.....  !!!!

More evidence that things don't add up in this case... No one would even question her alcohol levels if it was equated to Engish Drink Drive Laws... But they failed to tell the JURY it was Scottish drink drive laws and it was in Urine and not blood!!!!!!!

OMG!!! ... some please... sort this out!!!

EDIT:.... looks like halves in the Ram....

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When his girlfriend and Brother went to see him why didn't they take the chance to help him and highlight his plight

There is no proof whatsoever he was gagged then or to this day!

Morning Jixy..

We don't know, It's possible they kept quite to help him.. they probably thought they were helping..

Marcel said:The family believes it's in Vincents best interest if we do not make any comments

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7613.msg384191#msg384191

It's my opinion that he was gagged... He's rather quite wouldn't you say...

Jixy... answer me why the DNA turnaround times keep changing...????

[jixy]

Good morning

I am sorry but I still don't agree...

Best interest could be their excuse for not doing or saying anything or more likely there is nothing to say in his defence.

His own version was that he made a pass or whatever he would call it and it wasn't welcome, he panicked etc etc. As his girlfriend what could she say in his defence to that. I know I would struggle if it was me.

If she believed in his innocence and don't forget she sat with him, he could have told her what really happened and I think he did. He told her the truth and she believes his guilt

Her own Father's comments are very telling when he could have been a very good source of information help and advice

[jixy]

Maybe VT has resigned himself to his punishment and just wants to get on with it?

I think that is exactly what happened. He did his research give it his best shot...manslaughter and it failed

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I think that is exactly what happened. He did his research give it his best shot...manslaughter and it failed

None of the evidence adds up Jixy... It doesn't make any sense whatsoever....

I know you think he is guilty... But even you must question some of the things I have brought to the table..

I can't believe at this point I still keep finding things.....

Lord please give me a copy of the 1300 page Document!!!

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Mr Lickley said forensic archaeologist Karl Harrison considered how Miss Yeates was found, especially regarding leaves and snow around and on her body.

Mr Lickley said: "After her death, she was placed on a verge, laying on a layer of leaf matter. Following her deposition leaves were placed around her and tucked in around her sides, compressed against her body.

"A layer of snow fell, sealing the leaf litter. A little time was taken to place the body of Joanna Yeates before she was left at the scene."


Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/joanna-yeates-fought-killer/story-13538504-detail/story.html#657kCmb7ZmU9bH5T.99

https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/people/dr-karl-harrison-466715

a layer of leaf litter doesn't sound very much....  Her body surely would have been seen before 25th Decemeber 2010 if she had lain there since 17th December 2010....

People were aware she was missing... A lump on the side of the road would have drawn attention to it....!!

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Another problem with the guessing of the alcohol in Joanna Yeates system, is there are many factors that contribute they the rate at which it is metabolised...

Where these rates ever brought into consideration when they tested the alcohol in her system, instead of saying it equates to what she drank in the pub...

Now she was in The Ram for about 2 hours... So her first drink would start to metabolise, if she left at 8:00pm then both drinks would be metabolising...

People who drink drive delay being breathalised by the police on the spot, and opt for going to the police station, in the hope that some of the alcohol will have metabolised before they have to give there sample... they use evry trick in the book for the time to elapse...

With this in mind.. Joanna Yeates had at least 45 mins for the alcohol to start metabolising... She was a fit young woman and these factors, play a part in how quickly the alcohol metabolises...

The speed at which a person consumes alcohol: the faster a person drinks, the faster their BAC will rise

Well it was a lesuirely drink with friends... so that doesn't apply..

A person's fat/muscle content: fatty tissue does not absorb alcohol very well, alcohol will be absorbed a lot more into other tissues which are rich in water such as muscle. If two people weighing 90kg, one a tall thin person and the other a small fat person consumed the same amount of alcohol, the small fat person would usually have a higher BAC than the thin person.

Joanna Yeates was lean and athletic...

A person's metabolism (the rate at which alcohol is processed and eliminated by the body): this can vary from person to person, however, the average person will usually eliminate 10ml of alcohol per hour. Heavy drinkers may have more active livers and can therefore usually eliminate more alcohol than average. People with liver disease may have less active livers and will therefore usually eliminate alcohol slower

So no time at all was allowed for the rate of alcohol to metabolise in Joanna Yeates body.. And she only took a sip out of the bottle of cider according to Greg...

So she should be on the more than average scale...

Medication and the amount of food in the stomach: this can have an effect on the rate at which alcohol is absorbed into the body and subsequently eliminated.

Now her medical history was not brought to court so... I'll assume she wasn't taking medication!!

A person's age: younger people tend to usually metabolise alcohol more quickly than older people.

Exactly.... young athletic fit girl....

So the question is....  How can the alcohol level in Joanna yeates blood sample equal roughly 2 pints ??????


To me... it leads to her having drunk more alcohol after she left The Ram!!!!

https://www.drinkdriving.org/drink_driving_information_bloodalcoholcontentcalculator.php

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I've attached another pic.... It's in the Ram... when she sit down she sits where the empty glass is... the glass looks like a half pints glass....

So if she consumed 2 pints in 2 hours over 4 drinks ... they should have started metabolising !!!!!

We have no record of the strength of the alcohol....

shouldn't these questions have been asked before?????...

The more I look at this the more I believe it leans towards her drinking more alcohol than just at The Ram!!!

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[Leonora]

Just looking at the article and I found something interesting.....

Now we covered the cheesy chips and how it was impossible for them to be still in her stomach contenets... But we never covered the Alchohol....

I presume the alcohol tests were done when the stomach contents where done in Glasgow... And this is were the Important stuff lies...

Counsel for the Prosecution is gifted with a vivid imagination. You may not presume anything!!! Several of the expert witnesses were in a position to carry out tests to find the content of alcohol in Joanna's blood, but none of them actually testified to having done so in court. The article also reports Counsel as declaring that the Scottish expert witness pinpointed a time of death. If she did, she never actually told the court what it was!

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I think that is exactly what happened. He did his research give it his best shot...manslaughter and it failed

I think he was given the wrong advise...  wrong information... and the wrong Lawyer (IMO)!!

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Counsel for the Prosecution is gifted with a vivid imagination. You may not presume anything!!! Several of the expert witnesses were in a position to carry out tests to find the content of alcohol in Joanna's blood, but none of them actually testified to having done so in court. The article also reports Counsel as declaring that the Scottish expert witness pinpointed a time of death. If she did, she never actually told the court what it was!

Mr Lickley said Dr Jennifer Miller pinpointed time of death to between 9pm and 11pm.

So... anytime between 9:00pm and 11:00pm... So why did the Defence tell the court she died between 9:00pm and 9:30pm..????


http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/joanna-yeates-fought-killer/story-13538504-detail/story.html#XtZEcOGTVsYhytSP.99


On what day........

[mrswah]

Mr Lickley said forensic archaeologist Karl Harrison considered how Miss Yeates was found, especially regarding leaves and snow around and on her body.

Mr Lickley said: "After her death, she was placed on a verge, laying on a layer of leaf matter. Following her deposition leaves were placed around her and tucked in around her sides, compressed against her body.

"A layer of snow fell, sealing the leaf litter. A little time was taken to place the body of Joanna Yeates before she was left at the scene."




Read more at http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/joanna-yeates-fought-killer/story-13538504-detail/story.html#657kCmb7ZmU9bH5T.99

https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/people/dr-karl-harrison-466715

From reading the report quoted, it sounds as if the person who deposited the body was somebody with time, and somebody with experience in such matters.  Either that, or the person had done a lot of research.