Mark Harrison and the searches he recommended and took part in.

[G-Unit]

Other possibilities or scenarios will be considered on request

(Mark Harrison).

Is there any evidence he was requested (to consider other possibilities or scenarios)?

Why would he be?

[ferryman]

Why would he be?

because Harrison was invited to consider solely that Madeleine had been murdered, drew a blank (about what may, or may not, have happened to Madeleine) and offered a tentative and hedged conclusion about what might happened and in particular what might have happened to Madeleine's remains (if, indeed, she was murdered).

Operation Grange today, as we know, has not abandoned hope of finding Madeleine alive.

[G-Unit]

To return to the thread title this is what Mark Harrison OBE, the national search advisor to all UK police said in July 2007. If the police are the experts, Harrison's opinion has to be taken into account 9 years later also. The Metropolitan Police have certainly never contradicted his opinion.

This report has highlighted the extensive and professional efforts made by the Portuguese authorities regarding the search to locate Madeleine McCann alive. It has now begun to consider further opportunities to re search locations in order to address the possibility that she has been murdered and concealed nearby. This would be a proportionate and appropriate response given the elapsed time since her disappearance and previous experience in such similar cases.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

[ferryman]

To return to the thread title this is what Mark Harrison OBE, the national search advisor to all UK police said in July 2007. If the police are the experts, Harrison's opinion has to be taken into account 9 years later also. The Metropolitan Police have certainly never contradicted his opinion.

This report has highlighted the extensive and professional efforts made by the Portuguese authorities regarding the search to locate Madeleine McCann alive. It has now begun to consider further opportunities to re search locations in order to address the possibility that she has been murdered and concealed nearby. This would be a proportionate and appropriate response given the elapsed time since her disappearance and previous experience in such similar cases.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

Harrison concluded his third, and final, report by making clear he, personally, had no idea what happened to Madeleine.

But did offer a hedged, and tentative, view diametrically opposite from that Amaral (either incompetently or dishonestly) claimed Harrison concluded in his book.

[G-Unit]

Harrison concluded his third, and final, report by making clear he, personally, had no idea what happened to Madeleine.

But did offer a hedged, and tentative, view diametrically opposite from that Amaral (either incompetently or dishonestly) claimed Harrison concluded in his book.

His opinion about possible disposal of remains was;

I am currently of the opinion on the available information and statistical datasets that if death has occurred, that it is possible that Madeleine McCann’s body has been disposed into the sea at Praia da Luz.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

[John]

So after 21 pages dare I ask if we have established if Harrison recommended all the searches or was he taking instructions from elsewhere despite his better judgement?

Could the exercise have been done better?

[Alice Purjorick]

So after 21 pages dare I ask if we have established if Harrison recommended all the searches or was he taking instructions from elsewhere despite his better judgement?

Could the exercise have been done better?

26 pages on we do not seem to have a text of what might be decribed as Sr Encarnacao's "Design Brief" to Mr Harrison. We have a copy of Mr Harrison's preliminary report where he alludes to what he thought it was and what he [Mr Harrison] thought he could offer but nothing from the other side that I can see. If  a formal written request from the Portuguese to Mr Harrison exists does anyone have a copy of it ? It might shed some light.

[G-Unit]

So after 21 pages dare I ask if we have established if Harrison recommended all the searches or was he taking instructions from elsewhere despite his better judgement?

Could the exercise have been done better?

Harrisons investigations and recommendations were carried out at the request of Encarnacao. It was Encarnacao's prerogative to choose which areas to search and in which order, which he did.

Encarnacao had every right to decide to search other areas if he wished, so why would Harrison want or need to cover it up if that's what happened?

The exercise was carried out according to Harrison's instructions and under his guidance. I can assume,  as the national search adviser to all UK police forces, that he knew what he was doing.

[Angelo222]

Harrisons investigations and recommendations were carried out at the request of Encarnacao. It was Encarnacao's prerogative to choose which areas to search and in which order, which he did.

Encarnacao had every right to decide to search other areas if he wished, so why would Harrison want or need to cover it up if that's what happened?

The exercise was carried out according to Harrison's instructions and under his guidance. I can assume,  as the national search adviser to all UK police forces, that he knew what he was doing.

A good post G unit which seems to fit with both your position and that of ferryman.  See what happens when everyone works together.

[G-Unit]

A good post G unit which seems to fit with both your position and that of ferryman.  See what happens when everyone works together.

I think you'll find ferryman believes Harrison covered something up, Angelo, and that the text demonstrates that.

My opinion is that he had no reason to do that and the text shows no such thing. Sorry! 

[Angelo222]

I think you'll find ferryman believes Harrison covered something up, Angelo, and that the text demonstrates that.

My opinion is that he had no reason to do that and the text shows no such thing. Sorry!

That is something else and furthermore cannot be proven without those involved admitting to it.  The important bit is that Harrison had his brief and that ultimately came from the Portuguese who own the case.  Regardless of what SY do and say it is and always will be a Portuguese decision as to where this case ends up.

[John]

When someone goes into a situation anywhere with little or no background information it is always a challenge.  To be sent to a foreign country who's police procedures will be somewhat alien to what we trust and accept in most of the UK must have been a bit daunting for all the English police officers so deployed. None more so than for Harrison and Grime.

What started out as one thing inevitably escalated into something else, the long and the short of it was that they had to get on with it regardless of the limited resources and techniques available to them in Portugal.  Criticising them now after the event with the benefit of all the hindsight we have accomplishes very little.

[ferryman]

I think you'll find ferryman believes Harrison covered something up, Angelo, and that the text demonstrates that.

My opinion is that he had no reason to do that and the text shows no such thing. Sorry!

No.

My position is that Harrison went as far as he dared (not nearly far enough!) to demonstrate that his own position and recommendations had been undermined, superseded and even overridden. 

[slartibartfast]

No.

My position is that Harrison went as far as he dared (not nearly far enough!) to demonstrate that his own position and recommendations had been undermined, superseded and even overridden.

With no evidence to back up your position.

[ferryman]

With no evidence to back up your position.

Re-read my posts in this thread.

All the evidence is there.