Is the 1st arguido, Robert Murat, no longer of interest in this case?

[Angelo222]

I wonder why someone found it necessary to doctor RM & MW's phone records before they were uploaded onto the internet?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA2_COM/O_Apenso_2_com_Page_016.jpg
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA2_COM/O_Apenso_2_com_Page_026.jpg

In what way?

[misty]

In what way?

What do you notice on the 2 pages I have linked to?

[misty]

Overlooking the very significance of the dates for a moment.........
The phone records were produced by a Portuguese phone provider for the Portuguese police. Every word, from the letters of request to the column headers, were written in Portuguese. So where did the use of the English word "UNKNOWN" originate from in the lists, rather than the Portuguese equivalent "desconhecido"?

[sadie]

Absolutely, Mercury, he was actually doing his job particularly in relation to the direction taken by the man seen by Jane Tanner.  Which is in reply to your original question about who it was who fingered Murat.

Goncalo Amaral takes the credit for so doing and a read at the files confirms the appropriateness of that suspicion and the subsequent investigation that followed.
In stark contrast to the reasoning behind his suspicions regarding Madeleine's parents.

The Policia Judiciaria found it impossible to discover what had become of Madeleine. Nor did they find evidence to enable them lay charges against those who had been declared suspects in Madeleine's disappearance.

When the case was archived in 2008 Robert Murat was cleared ...
There was nothing to link him to the disappearance, and he was cleared on 21 July 2008 when the case was archived.[7]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

Which was exactly the situation pertaining to Madeleine's parents ...
The McCanns were declared arguidos (suspects) in September 2007 but were cleared when Portugal's attorney-general archived the case in July 2008.[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

There must be more vitriol floating about on the internet regarding the people whose daughter was taken from them than that directed towards any group or individual human being either in bygone times or current.
Logically Robert Murat should be receiving at least a third of that opprobrium ... he doesn't appear to be.

Which makes it valid to ask if Robert Murat is still of interest.

He never used to be of interest to me, but then things changed.  And now I am interested in him, but not as an abductor per se. 

I cant say anymore ... and I am quite probably wrong anyhow.

[sadie]

Overlooking the very significance of the dates for a moment.........
The phone records were produced by a Portuguese phone provider for the Portuguese police. Every word, from the letters of request to the column headers, were written in Portuguese. So where did the use of the English word "UNKNOWN" originate from in the lists, rather than the Portuguese equivalent "desconhecido"?

    How observant of you misty. 

[Brietta]

Overlooking the very significance of the dates for a moment.........
The phone records were produced by a Portuguese phone provider for the Portuguese police. Every word, from the letters of request to the column headers, were written in Portuguese. So where did the use of the English word "UNKNOWN" originate from in the lists, rather than the Portuguese equivalent "desconhecido"?

I don't know how you do it sometimes, Misty, you have a knack for spotting 'discrepancies' in documents.

Just yesterday I came across information on holiday bookings etc on which Textusa has carried out an inordinate amount of work. She opined, and in my opinion proved, that the information contained therein was subject to extreme editing prior to them being submitted to the Policia Judiciaria.

Very complicated ... but clarified by the colour coding used to differentiate between the days to which the information referred.

I lost interest when the usual conspiracy theories took over from the logic ( so no cite, but easy enough to find for any who wish to Google it) ... but interesting nonetheless if as in this case, the information given to the PJ was being deliberately corrupted.

[ferryman]

I don't know how you do it sometimes, Misty, you have a knack for spotting 'discrepancies' in documents.

Just yesterday I came across information on holiday bookings etc on which Textusa has carried out an inordinate amount of work. She opined, and in my opinion proved, that the information contained therein was subject to extreme editing prior to them being submitted to the Policia Judiciaria.

Very complicated ... but clarified by the colour coding used to differentiate between the days to which the information referred.

I lost interest when the usual conspiracy theories took over from the logic ( so no cite, but easy enough to find for any who wish to Google it) ... but interesting nonetheless if as in this case, the information given to the PJ was being deliberately corrupted.

There are just some posters with a forensic eye for detail and an astounding ability to pull up any reference at a moment's notice.

Sal, over on StopTheMyths is another.

These people are, indeed, immensely valuable.

[sadie]

Overlooking the very significance of the dates for a moment.........
The phone records were produced by a Portuguese phone provider for the Portuguese police. Every word, from the letters of request to the column headers, were written in Portuguese. So where did the use of the English word "UNKNOWN" originate from in the lists, rather than the Portuguese equivalent "desconhecido"?

Now that misty adds to my reasons to be interested in him ... and some other people along with him.

But then an interest because of anomalies/ coincidences does not, in themselves, amount to much ... or does it?


However, I have seven reasons for interest now.  Each individually is quite small but collectively they are becoming quite impressive.   Some might be interpreted differently by others.  Dunno.

I ask myself, just how many coincidences/anomalies does it need before ones antennae rise?

[Alice Purjorick]

I don't know how you do it sometimes, Misty, you have a knack for spotting 'discrepancies' in documents.

Just yesterday I came across information on holiday bookings etc on which Textusa has carried out an inordinate amount of work. She opined, and in my opinion proved, that the information contained therein was subject to extreme editing prior to them being submitted to the Policia Judiciaria.

Very complicated ... but clarified by the colour coding used to differentiate between the days to which the information referred.

I lost interest when the usual conspiracy theories took over from the logic ( so no cite, but easy enough to find for any who wish to Google it) ... but interesting nonetheless if as in this case, the information given to the PJ was being deliberately corrupted.

I do!
Like she pays attention. QED

[mercury]

Overlooking the very significance of the dates for a moment.........
The phone records were produced by a Portuguese phone provider for the Portuguese police. Every word, from the letters of request to the column headers, were written in Portuguese. So where did the use of the English word "UNKNOWN" originate from in the lists, rather than the Portuguese equivalent "desconhecido"?

How can yoube sure they were "doctored" just because an english word is used? Wouldnt you have to contact the phone company to ask where how and who by the records are produced?
Who do you imagne has "doctored" police files?

[misty]

How can yoube sure they were "doctored" just because an english word is used? Wouldnt you have to contact the phone company to ask where how and who by the records are produced?
Who do you imagne has "doctored" police files?

Well, it wasn't RM or MW who doctored their own records.

A little challenge for you, Merc. Spot any other English word (excluding Proper Nouns) in this link.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_2_COM.htm

See you in 2 weeks.

[mercury]

Well, it wasn't RM or MW who doctored their own records.

A little challenge for you, Merc. Spot any other English word (excluding Proper Nouns) in this link.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/OUSTROS_APENSOS_2_COM.htm

See you in 2 weeks.

No you asserted it was doctored so yu prove it

[John]

I wonder why someone found it necessary to doctor RM & MW's phone records before they were uploaded onto the internet?
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA2_COM/O_Apenso_2_com_Page_016.jpg
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA2_COM/O_Apenso_2_com_Page_026.jpg

An interesting observation misty. Could it be that some words were merely translated into English?

[misty]

An interesting observation misty. Could it be that some words were merely translated into English?

Why would a Portuguese phone company translate only one word from a phone record into English?
If you look at page 3, for example, http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA2_COM/O_Apenso_2_com_Page_003.jpg,
there are 3 separate phone numbers listed in the left hand column so the data appears to have been transferred onto a spreadsheet. The right hand column is written in English under a Portuguese header & there is no logical reason for that.
I suggest that the documents in the PJ files are not exact replicas of the ones provided by the Portuguese phone companies but have been edited & reproduced by the UK experts who helped the PJ with the phone traffic analysis.

[jassi]

Why would a Portuguese phone company translate only one word from a phone record into English?
If you look at page 3, for example, http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/oa/OA2_COM/O_Apenso_2_com_Page_003.jpg,
there are 3 separate phone numbers listed in the left hand column so the data appears to have been transferred onto a spreadsheet. The right hand column is written in English under a Portuguese header & there is no logical reason for that.
I suggest that the documents in the PJ files are not exact replicas of the ones provided by the Portuguese phone companies but have been edited & reproduced by the UK experts who helped the PJ with the phone traffic analysis.

I like that word 

What skulduggery do you think they might have been up to in their editing ?