Can we take the file records at face value?

[sadie]

The strange additions in English to the otherwise completely Portuguese phone records are well worth looking at.  I wonder if this is yet another example of records being changed?

... and why?

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[mercury]

The strange additions in English to the otherwise completely Portuguese phone records are well worth looking at.  I wonder if this is yet another example of records being changed?

... and why?

Care to give us other examples of said changed records?

[sadie]

Care to give us other examples of said changed records?

Yep,

You only have to look at the original Processos 809 produced on the spot in Porto where the sighting took place ... with the changed record of Processos 807-808, written in Portimao . 

This Portimao Processos undermines the original Porto Processos 809 by changing its content, embellishing it with false facts.  These false facts actually take the investigators eye of what happened. 

It effectively also says, "take no notice of Processos 809",  use this instead" ... BAH, Sloppy or what?

[mercury]

Links would be handy

[sadie]

Links would be handy

Easy to look the Processos up in the files, then compare, remembering that Processos 809, written in Porto where the sighting happened, was written previously to Processos 807-808. 

Do it thoroughly:

Check on Google Earth, where Campanha Railway station is in Porto, then the name of the railway station that is 1.5 km away from Rua. Andre de Castro, which was the drop off point.  The taxi driver witness stated that he picked up at Campanha railway station NOT at the other railway station.

See if you can find several other 'errors' in Processos 807-808.

Several times on here, I have listed the differences between the original Processo (809) and the later Portimao Processos ... and the faults in the later. 

[mercury]

I just asked for a mccannpjfiles link, why is it so hard?

[misty]

I just asked for a mccannpjfiles link, why is it so hard?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm
You will need to do the scrolling yourself to pages 807-9.

[slartibartfast]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm
You will need to do the scrolling yourself to pages 807-9.

So 809 is the original report and 807-8 are the further investigation which was undertaken the same day the report came in. The witness was reminded of the incident by another driver. The original call mentions which station whereas the further investigation mentions distance and time. I wonder how many trips Porto taxis do each day and how many ranks they use?

[mercury]

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm
You will need to do the scrolling yourself to pages 807-9.

Dont be sarky
I didnt realise all file numbers were all solely consecutive through every section of all tomes!

I can scroll

[misty]

Dont be sarky
I didnt realise all file numbers were all solely consecutive through every section of all tomes!

I can scroll

 

[mercury]

Easy to look the Processos up in the files, then compare, remembering that Processos 809, written in Porto where the sighting happened, was written previously to Processos 807-808. 

Do it thoroughly:

Check on Google Earth, where Campanha Railway station is in Porto, then the name of the railway station that is 1.5 km away from Rua. Andre de Castro, which was the drop off point.  The taxi driver witness stated that he picked up at Campanha railway station NOT at the other railway station.

See if you can find several other 'errors' in Processos 807-808.

Several times on here, I have listed the differences between the original Processo (809) and the later Portimao Processos ... and the faults in the later.

Sorry, but i cant make head or tail of your complaint and accusations.

[sadie]

So 809 is the original report and 807-8 are the further investigation which was undertaken the same day the report came in. The witness was reminded of the incident by another driver. The original call mentions which station whereas the further investigation mentions distance and time. I wonder how many trips Porto taxis do each day and how many ranks they use?

Apart from using the wrong pick up point, which was Campanha Railway station and NOT Vila Nova de Gaia (VNG) Railway station (a difference in distance of about 5 kilometres) the Portimao PJ changed and added several other things to the original Porto report, which was written on the spot.  Some of them are obvious clangers and others are suspect IMO.

In fact, to me, they seem to be taking the investigators eye away from what actually happened

They made what appear to be several significant errors. 

See if you can find them



You will find it easier with G.Earth to (1) measure distances
and (2) to view the street scene at Rua Andre de Castro, Vila Nova de Gaia

[mercury]

Prove it
Your theory sounds barmy
That police were actively perverting the course of justice to stop a child being found Barmy to the extreme and worst
Its actually extremely offensive

[slartibartfast]

Apart from using the wrong pick up point, which was Campanha Railway station and NOT Vila Nova de Gaia (VNG) Railway station (a difference in distance of about 5 kilometres) the Portimao PJ changed and added several other things to the original Porto report, which was written on the spot.  Some of them are obvious clangers and others are suspect IMO.

In fact, to me, they seem to be taking the investigators eye away from what actually happened

They made what appear to be several significant errors. 

See if you can find them



You will find it easier with G.Earth to (1) measure distances
and (2) to view the street scene at Rua Andre de Castro, Vila Nova de Gaia

I will repeat, one was the first report, the second was a follow up with investigation. His friend reminded him of picking up a fare 5 days earlier at the station. As we are constantly told memory is fickle especially for unimportant detail so his first report may have assumed one station which he revised in his more detailed chat.

P.S. why wasn't the Whitehaven sighting taken seriously?

[sadie]

Prove it
Your theory sounds barmy
That police were actively perverting the course of justice to stop a child being found Barmy to the extreme and worst
Its actually extremely offensive

You will see, (my post October 16, 2016, 01:17:57 AM) that I suggested that you use GE to disprove what is said in Processos 807-808.

The reason for this being that I can't post GE images ... so you will have to do the looking yourself

But I can assure you that Campagna Railway station is a good 6 Km away, by taxi, from the drop off point in Rua Andre de Casta.   The Portimao Processos 807-808, demeaning Porto processos 809, gets it wrong and is referring to the Railway station in VNG (Vila Nova Gaia).  That is 1.5 km away, but it is the wrong station and on the wrong side of the River Douro


Now, I challenge you.  Find some more things in Processos 807-808 that are also wrong / very strange.  There are a number