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stephen25000

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Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2016, 02:55:12 PM »
There are loads mfore. I'm sure you know how to google them.
Rather like GM's claims that he received many letters of support - do you really think he should have wasted precious time uploading copies of them all onto the net merely to prove his & Kate's actions were not unprecedented? Some saddo would have spent hours trying to prove the letters were all fabricated.

You can quote as many as you wish.

It I'll never be an excuse for neglect.

As to McCann, I take his claims, unless verified with a pinch of salt.

Any idea Misty of how many parents are charged and/or convicted of neglect of their children ?

That is far more pertinent.


Offline misty

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2016, 03:22:16 PM »
You can quote as many as you wish.

It I'll never be an excuse for neglect.

As to McCann, I take his claims, unless verified with a pinch of salt.

Any idea Misty of how many parents are charged and/or convicted of neglect of their children ?

That is far more pertinent.

Do you want cases of pure neglect as opposed to child abuse? Do you want cases where neglect has resulted in no physical harm to the child as opposed to those where harm has occurred?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2016, 03:29:19 PM »
Do you want cases of pure neglect as opposed to child abuse? Do you want cases where neglect has resulted in no physical harm to the child as opposed to those where harm has occurred?

Is this like the drink drivers who don't have an accident?
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2016, 03:36:24 PM »
Is this like the drink drivers who don't have an accident?

Possibly. It's important to establish the correct statistics as more sober drivers have accidents than drunk drivers.

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2016, 03:45:28 PM »
It's not relevant how many people use listening services in closed resorts and hotels because the Ocean Club was neither of those; that's why there was no listening service there.

Baby monitor use is also not relevant because there wasn't one used.

UK law says children mustn't be left home alone if it puts them at risk. So the question is were those three children at risk alone in that apartment?

I've never used a travel cot but they look quite flimsy to me as a secure place for an active toddler. An almost 4 year old can clearly leave it's bed.

Once children are out of bed there are all the dangers which are present in any home. In this case there;s an unlocked door to a high balcony also.

Anyone who says three small children weren't at risk of harming themselves if left alone in that apartment is in denial in my opinion. People have been arrested for much less.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11498123/Arrests-for-leaving-kids-home-alone-made-every-day.html

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Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2016, 03:51:03 PM »
Possibly. It's important to establish the correct statistics as more sober drivers have accidents than drunk drivers.

You have to be careful with statistics there, of course.  Is it the case that because the majority of drivers are sober there is, in effect, a larger 'population' of (sober!) drivers to have accidents than there are drunk?

If so, the more telling statistic would be what proportion of all drunk-drivers who take to the road have accidents versus the proportion of all sober drivers.

Offline slartibartfast

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2016, 03:54:41 PM »
You have to be careful with statistics there, of course.  Is it the case that because the majority of drivers are sober there is, in effect, a larger 'population' of (sober!) drivers to have accidents than there are drunk?

If so, the more telling statistic would be what proportion of all drunk-drivers who take to the road have accidents versus the proportion of all sober drivers.

I had assumed misty was joking...
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Offline misty

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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2016, 04:09:56 PM »
I had assumed misty was joking...

You'll never know.  8)--))

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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2016, 04:34:54 PM »
You have to be careful with statistics there, of course.  Is it the case that because the majority of drivers are sober there is, in effect, a larger 'population' of (sober!) drivers to have accidents than there are drunk?

If so, the more telling statistic would be what proportion of all drunk-drivers who take to the road have accidents versus the proportion of all sober drivers.

90 odd % of whom had been eating potatoes in the previous 24 hours.
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Offline misty

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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2016, 04:46:04 PM »
90 odd % of whom had been eating potatoes in the previous 24 hours.
100% of them had consumed water in some form.
What form of potatoes was referred to or was it just a generalisation?

Offline Benice

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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2016, 05:47:46 PM »
I wasn't referring to you Eleanor, merely Gerry Mccann.

I presume you're not Gerry Mccann.   8**8:/:

After all, all the Mccanns had to do was publish letters of 'support' with names redacted.

How many letters of support would they have to publish for you to accept them as proof that they had received thousands?   

Even if they had published every letter they had received (with names redacated)  would your response  have been :-

a) Sorry I got it wrong and they did receive 1000s of letters of support.

or

b) But we only have their word for it that they are genuine letters.

Do tell.

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stephen25000

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Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2016, 05:53:16 PM »
How many letters of support would they have to publish for you to accept them as proof that they had received thousands?   

Even if they had published every letter they had received (with names redacated)  would your response  have been :-

a) Sorry I got it wrong and they did receive 1000s of letters of support.

or

b) But we only have their word for it that they are genuine letters.

Do tell.

Well,  where are these letters ?

It wouldn't take much.

That doesn't include of course any from the supporters club, which does appear to be rather dwindling.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Gerry McCann says that thousands did or would have done the same as them.
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2016, 06:39:51 PM »
100% of them had consumed water in some form.
What form of potatoes was referred to or was it just a generalisation?

A bloke I knew way back when the breathalyser was just being introduced dreamed that up.
He was an Essex Boy so undoubtedly it was mash.

Then on the other hand:
Australian = chips
English = Fench Fries
French = Pomm(i)e Fritte(r)s
« Last Edit: October 22, 2016, 06:43:13 PM by Alice Purjorick »
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Offline Benice

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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2016, 07:01:45 PM »
Well,  where are these letters ?

It wouldn't take much.

That doesn't include of course any from the supporters club, which does appear to be rather dwindling.

What wouldn't take much?    Are you saying it wouldn't take many letters (with names redacted) to convince you they had received 1000s of letters of support -  or that it wouldn't take much to publish 1000s of letters?  Please clarify.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal