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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #135 on: January 16, 2017, 06:00:27 PM »
This is the search warrant for the villa;

Before proceeding to effect the search, copy of the dispatch attached determining who had access to the place, mentioning that they can be present during the search and be accompanied or substituted by someone of confidence will be delivered. If the persons in reference are not present, copy of the dispatch can be delivered where possible to a family member, neighbour, caretaker or whoever acts as substitute, article 176, n 1 and 2 of the CPP.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DOGS_INSPECTION.htm# p8p2085

This is what Kate said;

we were all asked to leave the villa. It was early evening and we had to find somewhere to go with two tired and hungry toddlers in tow. [Madeleine]

Did none of them read the paperwork saying they could stay, was it a misunderstanding, or is it another little white lie?
Or was it a PJ tactic to break the McCanns?  They were hoping to turn up there on a day they were going to be away in Huelva.  Once they turned up and found the McCanns had 2 people there doing videoing, no wonder they wanted them to leave.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #136 on: January 16, 2017, 06:01:47 PM »
And people on here have the cheek to accuse me of being black and white!

The McCanns told the world that they had cancelled a trip because Gerry had a stomach virus, a virus which he seemed not to have had in that morning. The lie, we later found out from Kate, was to cover up the fact that suspicion was beginning to fall on them and forensics were being done to that end. That was not a white lie but an absolute whopper. It proved that they were willing to lie in order to misdirect and we have no reason to believe they would not use the same strategy again, if the need arose.
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #137 on: January 16, 2017, 06:09:20 PM »
I notice you did not respond to my previous post addressed to you.  Have you never told a white lie yourself, or are you whiter than white?

I sure I have in the past but I try to avoid it, I have seen what happens when people tell little white lies and then forget which ones they have told to which people.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

ferryman

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #138 on: January 16, 2017, 06:12:49 PM »
The McCanns told the world that they had cancelled a trip because Gerry had a stomach virus, a virus which he seemed not to have had in that morning. The lie, we later found out from Kate, was to cover up the fact that suspicion was beginning to fall on them and forensics were being done to that end. That was not a white lie but an absolute whopper. It proved that they were willing to lie in order to misdirect and we have no reason to believe they would not use the same strategy again, if the need arose.

Frustratingly, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Kate's book.

From memory, she said something about not being keen to advertise to the world that police would soon be crawling all over the apartment they had hired for the holiday.

Is that right?

If it is, then I defy anyone here, if they were falsely accused of killing their eldest daughter, wanting to broadcast to the world that police were about to invade the place they last lived with said daughter before she vanished.

Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2017, 06:16:27 PM »
The McCanns told the world that they had cancelled a trip because Gerry had a stomach virus, a virus which he seemed not to have had in that morning. The lie, we later found out from Kate, was to cover up the fact that suspicion was beginning to fall on them and forensics were being done to that end. That was not a white lie but an absolute whopper. It proved that they were willing to lie in order to misdirect and we have no reason to believe they would not use the same strategy again, if the need arose.
Gerry did have a mild stomach upset so to call the "lie" an absolute whopper is utterly absurd.  It was an excuse, yes, but you are deliberately blowing it up out of all proportion to further for your own malicious agenda. It's very sad IMO. 

Offline faithlilly

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2017, 06:18:29 PM »
Frustratingly, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Kate's book.

From memory, she said something about not being keen to advertise to the world that police would soon be crawling all over the apartment they had hired for the holiday.

Is that right?

If it is, then I defy anyone here, if they were falsely accused of killing their eldest daughter, wanting to broadcast to the world that police were about to invade the place they last lived with said daughter before she vanished.

Whether falsely accused or guilty I can understand why they would not want the world to know they were under suspicion. Why not then simply keep quiet?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #141 on: January 16, 2017, 06:20:23 PM »
I sure I have in the past but I try to avoid it, I have seen what happens when people tell little white lies and then forget which ones they have told to which people.
So, you have lied in the past?  Oh dear, that indicates to me that you have lost your moral compass and are on the slippery slope.  Never mind that it was in the past and you say you prefer now to avoid lying, we must always judge you by your past actions and show no understanding or have any sense of proportion about them.  Once a liar, always a liar, eh?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #142 on: January 16, 2017, 06:21:59 PM »
Whether falsely accused or guilty I can understand why they would not want the world to know they were under suspicion. Why not then simply keep quiet?
I think the question is whether to go on the trip and be away or to stay under the excuse that Gerry felt ill.



Frustratingly, I can't lay my hands on my copy of Kate's book.

From memory, she said something about not being keen to advertise to the world that police would soon be crawling all over the apartment they had hired for the holiday.

Is that right?

If it is, then I defy anyone here, if they were falsely accused of killing their eldest daughter, wanting to broadcast to the world that police were about to invade the place they last lived with said daughter before she vanished.
Madeleine had never living in the Villa.

So, you have lied in the past?  Oh dear, that indicates to me that you have lost your moral compass and are on the slippery slope.  Never mind that it was in the past and you say you prefer not avoid lying, we must always judge you by your past actions and show no understanding or have any sense of proportion about them.  Once a liar, always a liar, eh?
So we are as bad as each other are we!
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Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #143 on: January 16, 2017, 06:22:23 PM »
Whether falsely accused or guilty I can understand why they would not want the world to know they were under suspicion. Why not then simply keep quiet?
Because it is easier to make a lame excuse like a tummy bug than to say "no comment" and be badgered for an explanation, or to see your "no comment" reported by journos with accompanying speculation about your refusal to comment.  It's really not that difficult to work out!

Offline faithlilly

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #144 on: January 16, 2017, 06:25:46 PM »
Gerry did have a mild stomach upset so to call the "lie" an absolute whopper is utterly absurd.  It was an excuse, yes, but you are deliberately blowing it up out of all proportion to further for your own malicious agenda. It's very sad IMO.

Rather handy that Gerry's stomach upset seemed to have developed straight after he was told that the PJ was going to carry out forensics on the villa.

It was not an excuse, it was a lie and a lie told to the world and demonstrates starkly just how far the McCanns will go to to cover up information they do not want the public to know.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #145 on: January 16, 2017, 06:27:57 PM »
Because it is easier to make a lame excuse like a tummy bug than to say "no comment" and be badgered for an explanation, or to see your "no comment" reported by journos with accompanying speculation about your refusal to comment.  It's really not that difficult to work out!

Gerry managed a 'no comment' when asked about Murat so why not now? Surely it would have been better than lying?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #146 on: January 16, 2017, 06:29:39 PM »
So, you have lied in the past?  Oh dear, that indicates to me that you have lost your moral compass and are on the slippery slope.  Never mind that it was in the past and you say you prefer not avoid lying, we must always judge you by your past actions and show no understanding or have any sense of proportion about them.  Once a liar, always a liar, eh?

Nothing as serious as about the reason for not going somewhere due to the police visiting.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #147 on: January 16, 2017, 06:30:29 PM »
Rather handy that Gerry's stomach upset seemed to have developed straight after he was told that the PJ was going to carry out forensics on the villa.

It was not an excuse, it was a lie and a lie told to the world and demonstrates starkly just how far the McCanns will go to to cover up information they do not want the public to know.
"Just how far"??! "Cover up"??!  Get a grip woman.  "I've got a tummy upset" is not the deception of the century.  You're really making a fool of yourself now IMO. 

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #148 on: January 16, 2017, 06:31:00 PM »
Because it is easier to make a lame excuse like a tummy bug than to say "no comment" and be badgered for an explanation, or to see your "no comment" reported by journos with accompanying speculation about your refusal to comment.  It's really not that difficult to work out!

Even easier to say that the police needed to see them.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?
« Reply #149 on: January 16, 2017, 06:32:41 PM »
Nothing as serious as about the reason for not going somewhere due to the police visiting.
You've never made an excuse for not going somewhere?  So tell us about the lies you have told and why they are no where near as bad as saying you've got a tummy bug and can't go on a planned trip.