Is there a plausible, logical theory of abduction?

[Alfie]

No idea. I'm merely chipping in.

So do you think Gerry used the word 'jemmied' ?

No idea.  It's possible.  It's also possible he didn't and his exact words misreported.  I think this issue registers about a 1 on the richter scale of importance to the case, but people like you attach HUGE significance to it - why?

[Alfie]

why not  just use the word  closed?/shut etc??

Probably because the window was being reported as open.  *&*%£

[faithlilly]

No idea.  It's possible.  It's also possible he didn't and his exact words misreported.  I think this issue registers about a 1 on the richter scale of importance to the case, but people like you attach HUGE significance to it - why?

You see Alfie dear chap that's where your mind-reading skills let you down again. I don't believe using the word jemmied is particularly important. Jemmied could simply mean forced. It's the fact that so many supporters vehemently deny he said it that interests me.

[Alfie]

You see Alfie dear chap that's where your mind-reading skills let you down again. I don't believe using the word jemmied is particularly important. Jemmied could simply mean forced. It's the fact that so many supporters vehemently deny he said it that interests me.

Great, well that's progress at least but methinks you are being somewhat economical with the actualite Rodders me old mucker.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1170.0

[Alfie]

Faithlilly pretends that "jemmied shutters" is not all that significant to her, but on the thread I just linked to she wrote, in reference to the reporting of "jemmied shutters that :

The lie was a panicked reaction in order that their relatives didn't blame them for leaving the apartment insecure. It was never going to stand up to scrutiny, they knew that and that's why they never repeated the story in any of their statements. It was a holding device, nothing more. It does however show the McCanns as people who are willing to be dishonest if the situation warrants it, simply to save their own skins

[Alice Purjorick]

Faithlilly pretends that "jemmied shutters" is not all that significant to her, but on the thread I just linked to she wrote, in reference to the reporting of "jemmied shutters that :

I only see mention of jemmied shutters in your bit.
Are you trying to tell us something?.
Up the Clyde Valley the expression is more likely to have been "forced with a pinching bar".
Jemmied is a bit Sarf East and to be found in Peter Cheyney books in days of yore ( that may give a clue).
Whether it was a jemmy (jimmy if one is a Septic*), crow bar or pinching bar does not matter as according to the OC and cops, not to mention Clarence Mitchell, there was no sign of a break in so said jemmy,jimmy, crow bar or pinching bar remained resolutely out of sight to the point one doubts its existence.

*Septic Tank ...work it out for yourself 

[faithlilly]

Faithlilly pretends that "jemmied shutters" is not all that significant to her, but on the thread I just linked to she wrote, in reference to the reporting of "jemmied shutters that :

Thank you for reminder Alfie. So the 'jemmied' claim was important in the context of the family's reaction to an unsecured apartment but not in the context of the investigation as a whole. It was the couple's claim of an open window that was important not how it got that way.

[Alfie]

Thank you for reminder Alfie. So the 'jemmied' claim was important in the context of the family's reaction to an unsecured apartment but not in the context of the investigation as a whole. It was the couple's claim of an open window that was important not how it got that way.

So it was important but not important, I see.... *&*%£

[G-Unit]

So it was important but not important, I see.... *&*%£

It reduced the impact of leaving the children home alone and added credence to the abduction story when repeated to the press, I suppose.

[Alice Purjorick]

It reduced the impact of leaving the children home alone and added credence to the abduction story when repeated to the press, I suppose.

Gilbert and Sullivan The Mikado.
A favourite of Slarti's and mine:

"Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative".

[slartibartfast]

Gilbert and Sullivan The Mikado.
A favourite of Slarti's and mine:

"Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative".

Make a good subtitle for a book.

[Alfie]

It reduced the impact of leaving the children home alone and added credence to the abduction story when repeated to the press, I suppose.

So that's why Gerry McCann told the press the window had been jemmied...oh wait, he didn't did he?  But on the night of the 3rd May he knew in advance that if he used the word "jemmied" in a frantic phone conversation with his nearest and dearest back home that they'd be sure to use that exact same word later in the news interviews that he knew would inevitably be reported in the world's press.  Yes, all makes perfect sense now.   

[G-Unit]

So that's why Gerry McCann told the press the window had been jemmied...oh wait, he didn't did he?  But on the night of the 3rd May he knew in advance that if he used the word "jemmied" in a frantic phone conversation with his nearest and dearest back home that they'd be sure to use that exact same word later in the news interviews that he knew would inevitably be reported in the world's press.  Yes, all makes perfect sense now.   

Only to you Alfie. I see it more as an unintended consequence. A 'lucky break' if you like.

[Alfie]

Only to you Alfie. I see it more as an unintended consequence. A 'lucky break' if you like.

So basically what you're now saying is that the use of the word "jemmied" was not chosen with any deliberate intention to deceive then?

[G-Unit]

So basically what you're now saying is that the use of the word "jemmied" was not chosen with any deliberate intention to deceive then?

Not unless you can suggest a reason why the McCanns would want to deceive their friends and relatives.