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Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #615 on: January 24, 2017, 01:22:31 PM »
Where are they going to find corroratve evidence to support the alerts
Evidence would need to be found at the site the dog alerted
A body found anywhere else would no corroborate the alerts

By undertaking normal investigative measures.

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Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #616 on: January 24, 2017, 01:24:40 PM »
Where are they going to find corroratve evidence to support the alerts
Evidence would need to be found at the site the dog alerted
A body found anywhere else would no corroborate the alerts

Not necessarily.  Say for example a skeleton was found which proved to be Madeleine then the alerts take on a whole new meaning since the last time she was seen was in 5a.  A body which had no relevance to the case would have no relevance to the alerts unless said body had some other connection to 5a.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #617 on: January 24, 2017, 01:25:03 PM »
By undertaking normal investigative measures.

Doesn't seem to be any of that going on

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #618 on: January 24, 2017, 01:26:38 PM »
Not necessarily.  Say for example a skeleton was found which proved to be Madeleine then the alerts take on a whole new meaning since the last time she was seen was in 5a.

So in that situation what do the alerts tell us
They tell us Maddie MAY have died in 5a
No confirmation
Same as we are now

Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #619 on: January 24, 2017, 01:26:56 PM »
Doesn't seem to be any of that going on

Apparently not.
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Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #620 on: January 24, 2017, 01:28:43 PM »
So in that situation what do the alerts tell us
They tell us Maddie MAY have died in 5a
No confirmation
Same as we are now

What they would tell us is that a whole new investigation is about to begin.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #621 on: January 24, 2017, 02:02:45 PM »
What they would tell us is that a whole new investigation is about to begin.
Sorry John it would be the body that triggered the new investigation

Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #622 on: January 24, 2017, 02:15:17 PM »
There is an important role for CSI dogs in every missing person investigation where a crime is suspected.  Only specially trained dogs can as yet detect cadaver odour so their importance can never be underestimated.

Why do you think they brought these dogs to Luz anyway?

« Last Edit: January 28, 2017, 10:01:50 PM by John »
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #623 on: January 24, 2017, 02:31:31 PM »
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sniffer-dog-used-in-search-for-madeleine-1050817
*snipped*
Eddie, who is trained to detect dead bodies and was used in the McCann case and the Soham murders inquiry, reacted when he was taken to sand dunes at Sty Wick on June 24.

Yes, that's all I found. So no information about searches or anything and to suggest Grime failed at Soham is not on.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #624 on: January 24, 2017, 02:33:30 PM »
There is an important role for CSI dogs in every missing person investigation where a crime is suspected.  Only specially trained dogs can as yet detect cadaver odour so their importance can never be underestimated.

Why do you think they brought these dogs to Luz anyway?
They brought them because they suspected Maddie might be dead and thought the dogs might find some evidence
No evidence found and we are no wiser to Maddies fate
« Last Edit: January 28, 2017, 10:02:13 PM by John »

Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #625 on: January 24, 2017, 02:36:19 PM »
Sorry John it would be the body that triggered the new investigation

Did I say otherwise?
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Offline John

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #626 on: January 24, 2017, 02:38:30 PM »
They brought them because they suspected Maddie might be dead and thought the dogs might find some evidence
No evidence found and we are no wiser to Maddies fate

Exactly, and we know how long cadaver odour takes to form.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #627 on: January 24, 2017, 04:26:16 PM »
Yes, that's all I found. So no information about searches or anything and to suggest Grime failed at Soham is not on.

I do not have enough information to know if Grime or Eddie failed at Soham. However, I am interested to know if
a) Grime was actually Eddie's handler on that mission
b) any of the dogs used did indicate in Huntley's house or his car

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #628 on: January 24, 2017, 07:58:29 PM »
I do not have enough information to know if Grime or Eddie failed at Soham. However, I am interested to know if
a) Grime was actually Eddie's handler on that mission
b) any of the dogs used did indicate in Huntley's house or his car
If a cadaver dog is not sent into the right area to search it won't alert. 
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Have the dog alerts any significance?
« Reply #629 on: January 24, 2017, 08:11:50 PM »
I do not have enough information to know if Grime or Eddie failed at Soham. However, I am interested to know if
a) Grime was actually Eddie's handler on that mission
b) any of the dogs used did indicate in Huntley's house or his car

The police searched the house and grounds of Soham Village College where they found items of interest to their investigation. Huntley and Carr were arrested a few hours later on suspicion of murder. The bodies were found a few hours after that.
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