Have the dog alerts any significance?

[Angelo222]

So according to Grime it's possible that Eddie alerted to cadaver odour
He doesn't mention a cadaver

So the dogs tell us its possible
But we already know that
We already know Maddie may have died in the apartment

You fail to understand that finding cadaver scent in 5a doesn't mean she expired there.  In fact had she died in 5a there would have been no cadaver scent present to find.  The cadaver scent comes afterwards by secondary transfer.

[Alfie]

Think secondary transfer Rob.

As you believe Madeleine woke and wandered and was abducted, where do you suppose the secondary transfer came from?

[Mr Gray]

You fail to understand that finding cadaver scent in 5a doesn't mean she expired there.

you obviously dont have a clue what i understand...what I do understand is this...

GRIME commented on the actions of the dogs and added that no confirmed evidence or information could be taken from the alerts by the dogs but needed to be confirmed with physical evidence.


do you understand that....i do

[slartibartfast]

Anyone who wants to totally discount alerts by an EVRD in a missing person case is not viewing the case in a logical, considered way.

[Mr Gray]

it seems some posters want to totally ignore Grime in order to push their own agendas....

GRIME commented on the actions of the dogs and added that no confirmed evidence or information could be taken from the alerts by the dogs but needed to be confirmed with physical evidence.

[Angelo222]

The evidence against Prout was circumstantial.  He took an age before reporting Kate "missing".

All credit cards and bank accounts of Kate's remained untouched from the point she disappeared.

Prout was known to have a volatile temper.

But it was the untouched bank accounts that was the main one.

Eddie alerted nowhere near where Prout strangled, then buried, Kate.

By jove I think you've got it ferryman. There was no cadaver scent in the game lodge but by secondary transfer cadaver scent was taken back to the farm bungalow.  What I do find puzzling however is why Eddie didn't alert to the Land Rover as the body must have been there long enough for cadaver scent to form.  Unless Prout steam cleaned and disinfected his equipment afterwards.

[Angelo222]

As you believe Madeleine woke and wandered and was abducted, where do you suppose the secondary transfer came from?

Isn't that the unknown quantity?

[Angelo222]

no they dont...you really do not understand

harrison and grime agree........no confirmation of what the alert was to

The dogs don't lie, Eddie found what he was trained to find.

[Mr Gray]

The dogs don't lie, Eddie found what he was trained to find.

you have no evidence to support that....dogs dont speak...eddies finds blood as well

[Angelo222]

So is it okay for a working Cadaver Dog to pick up items of interest and then to throw them around?

He never alerted to the toy did he?

[Mr Gray]

He never alerted to the toy did he?

according to grime he did....you dont take much notice of what grime says do you

[ferryman]

Anyone who wants to totally discount alerts by an EVRD in a missing person case is not viewing the case in a logical, considered way.

Anyone who gives remote credence to the "enhanced" label, uniquely bestowed upon one sniffer dog in the whole history of sniffer dogs, that (the dog) never went near an American body farm, at least during its tenure of service as a police dog, and was never trained on human remains, either hasn't studied the record, or, is not interested.

[Mr Gray]

He never alerted to the toy did he?

The dogs were not taught any 'tricks'. EVRD 'signalled' the toy, which at my request was retained by the Judicial Police for future forensic analysis. I have no knowledge of the results of any forensic analysis on the toy.

[Angelo222]

you have no evidence to support that....dogs dont speak...eddies finds blood as well

The dogs are only as good as their training.  They find what they are trained to find.

[ferryman]

He never alerted to the toy did he?

According to Grime, he did.

But no, he didn't.