Gerry and Kate's reaction to sniffer dogs didnt make sense new ninemsn article

[ferryman]

How do you know Eddie, could not distinguish between the two ?

How do you know he could?

[Benice]

You don't understand. Keela only searches where Eddie has alerted. If Eddie doesn't alert to the cadaver scent he is trained to find then Keela is not used.

Just like Keela, Eddie alerted to blood.       If Eddie did not alert at all then Grime took it for granted that there was no blood there - because if there was he would have alerted.   So no alert means no need to send Keela in.

My argument is that I do not believe that over decades not a single drop of blood had been deposited by any of the thousands of people who had spent their hols in those apartments -  and therefore the only reason Eddie did not alert IMO  is because he wasn't given a long enough time to make a detection.  Unless you disbelieve Grime's claims about his dogs abilities - then what else could it be? 

AIMHO


 

[stephen25000]

How do you know he could?

You are the one claiming he couldn't.

Now back it up.

Otherwise you are stating , yet again, opinion as fact.

[pathfinder73]

Morse was not trained to alert to blood.

And seeing as we have only sketchy details of Eddie's service and know, certainly only that his tally of operational deployment in service with SYP was 37, not over 200, as claimed by Grime, there is no data to answer your question.

But Lane's attorney, Terry Johnson, raised questions about the dog's ability to detect decomposition during his cross-examination.

"You have no way of telling what Morse responded to at any location?" Johnson asked Grime.

"He gave us a positive response," Grime said. "The corroboration would normally be to find a cadaver or bone or blood that you can see."

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/the-detroit-news/20121004/281706906902738

[Mr Gray]

You are the one claiming he couldn't.

Now back it up.

Otherwise you are stating , yet again, opinion as fact.

If he could distinguish why would you need a second dog
Proved by deduction again

[Mr Gray]

All cadaver dogs alert to blood. If you can provide evidence of Eddie alerting in a missing person case who has turned up alive then I'm all ears?

Eddie doesn't specify the person only the scent so your question is bogus

[stephen25000]

If he could distinguish why would you need a second dog
Proved by deduction again

If conducting an experiment/search, would you rely on just one source of 'information' ?

Try again, davel.

[Mr Gray]

The dogs are a very useful tool in crime detection but uncorroborated alerts are meaningless as no inference can be drawn from them
They are not circumstantial evidence and anyone who thinks they are does not understand the alerts

[stephen25000]

There were two dogs.

Can you provide evidence of any forensic examination by dogs, when only one dog was employed, in the search for a body ?

[Mr Gray]

There were two dogs.

Can you provide evidence of any forensic examination by dogs, when only one dog was employed, in the search for a body ?

You've lost 2 arguments so now you want a third
I'm not interested in silly games

I believe in the search for attracta harron  only Eddie was used
That's three

[Benice]

If conducting an experiment/search, would you rely on just one source of 'information' ?

Try again, davel.

Well Grime relied on just one source of information which is why he didn't send Keela in if Eddie did not alert.  He relied totally on Eddie's ability to detect blood.   
IMO

[stephen25000]

I have lost no argument at all.

Now provide examples of cases searching for a body, when only one dog is used.

[Mr Gray]

There were two dogs.

Can you provide evidence of any forensic examination by dogs, when only one dog was employed, in the search for a body ?

Keele doesn't alert to cadaver odour so Grime only used one cadaver dog

[Mr Gray]

I have lost no argument at all.

Now provide examples of cases searching for a body, when only one dog is used.

You don't give orders
Try again Stephen

Grime used only one cadaver dog in Jersey and pdl

[stephen25000]

I thought so.

So you can't find of forensic employment of dogs with only one dog employed ?