A question of common sense?

[Angelo222]

You can have no idea how much wine was consumed in just one hour and during a three course meal unless you can say how much wine was left in glasses and in wine bottles when everyone left the table.

Not a single person who was there including the police - has ever suggested that anyone was inebriated.  That should tell you something.
AIMHO

Not at the moment Ga - visitors are imminent.

IIRC it was stated in one of the GNR's witness statements.     Will try to find it later.

It doesn't matter how much was consumed, taking any alcohol can impair responses and render the most sensible of adults incapable of normal actions in an emergency thus the wailing mulah episodes.

[stephen25000]

According to the record Kate came out shouting "She's gone...Madeleine's gone!!" as in walked off?

...and then we have the other comment she allegedly said.

'They've taken her'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483715/Kate-McCann-DID-scream-Theyve-taken-claims-new-nanny-witness.html

[stephen25000]

It doesn't matter how much was consumed, taking any alcohol can impair responses.

Precisely.

[Erngath]

I don't know why you think everyone loses it in an emergency, unless you've watched too many films;

"Disaster films convey completely the wrong view of how most people behave in these kind of situations," he says. "Hollywood shows people panicking, but my research shows that 9.9 times out of 10, people don't turn into crazed individuals, but behave quite rationally.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2010/mar/16/disaster-planning-research

My two older boys aged three and a half and two and a half "escaped" from our locked back garden................to this day I do not know how they got out.
Believe me I panicked!!
 

[pathfinder73]

I've always found that contradictory.  If you find your child gone, the shutter raised and the window open why look under beds and in cupboards?  Wouldn't you rush outside the front door and search the car park and adjacent road first?

Yes I would go straight into the car park window side open - something KM did not do and then she went in the opposite direction and left the twins in the same open window room.

[Angelo222]

Yes I would go straight into the car park window side open - something KM did not do and then she went in the opposite direction and left the twins in the same open window room.

It would have been the natural thing to do, go out into the car park, into the street, run around the corner and down to mini reception instead of going out the patio door. According to her statements she never even opened the front door to look for the child.

[G-Unit]

My two older boys aged three and a half and two and a half "escaped" from our locked back garden................to this day I do not know how they got out.
Believe me I panicked!!

My first thought is why did you lock your garden? My second thought is we never know what our children are capable of until something like that happens. Finally, what did you do?

[Erngath]

My first thought is why did you lock your garden? My second thought is we never know what our children are capable of until something like that happens. Finally, what did you do?

I locked the garden gate at the top with a latch my husband had fitted while I fed the baby, so the boys could not get out.
Ran in a panic from one neighbour's  garden to  the next garden, ran back to our house, phoned my dad who lived in another town?, phoned the police who told me to keep looking and phone back in twenty minutes if they had not been found.
Ran back out to get neighbour's to help. One  of the boys appeared, he had been in a neighbour's garden fairly close and seconds later the younger one wandered up to  our gate.

Utter  panic! I had no idea of which direction to go and while going in one direction and worried that they could be going in another.

ETA Off to watch Andy Murray.....fingers crossed.

[G-Unit]

I locked the garden gate at the top with a latch my husband had fitted while I fed the baby, so the boys could not get out.
Ran in a panic from one neighbour's  garden to  the next garden, ran back to our house, phoned my dad who lived in another town?, phoned the police who told me to keep looking and phone back in twenty minutes if they had not been found.
Ran back out to get neighbour's to help. One  of the boys appeared, he had been in a neighbour's garden fairly close and seconds later the younger one wandered up to  our gate.

Utter  panic! I had no idea of which direction to go and while going in one direction and worried that they could be going in another.

I'm glad you locked your gate to keep your children safe, it always makes sense. The fact that they still got out shows why small children should ideally be supervised at all times.

You may have panicked, but your actions were entirely logical. You searched and phoned for help and advice. You followed the route you thought they had taken rather than running out of a door on the other side of the house.

[Brietta]

Do you have a cite for that please?

12-Processos, Vol 12 Pages 3281 - 3884

Witness Statement
Date: 17-10-2007
Jose Maria Batista Roque 

Then, while his colleague remained in the hall, and the others were in the living room, the witness went through the entire apartment. He opened all the cupboards in the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and checked under the beds and inside the washing machine. He did not see the fridge.

[G-Unit]

12-Processos, Vol 12 Pages 3281 - 3884

Witness Statement
Date: 17-10-2007
Jose Maria Batista Roque 

Then, while his colleague remained in the hall, and the others were in the living room, the witness went through the entire apartment. He opened all the cupboards in the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and checked under the beds and inside the washing machine. He did not see the fridge.

Thank you.

[Brietta]

Madeleine McCann's bed.  Would a cat even get under that bed???

Do members imagine that a divan base is a solid object?  It is not. It is just a platform to put a mattress on.  I can give the assurance that it is perfectly possible for an individual to conceal mountains of debris under one.  My son managed to with very little effort every time I insisted he tidied his room.
I purchased a divan bed for him specifically to prevent him putting things under the bed ... the divan didn't hinder him in the slightest.

Imagine there is no drawer or cupboard space within that base ... then, hand on heart, tell me it is impossible to conceal an object underneath a divan base.

[G-Unit]

Do members imagine that a divan base is a solid object?  It is not. It is just a platform to put a mattress on.  I can give the assurance that it is perfectly possible for an individual to conceal mountains of debris under one.  My son managed to with very little effort every time I insisted he tidied his room.
I purchased a divan bed for him specifically to prevent him putting things under the bed ... the divan didn't hinder him in the slightest.

Imagine there is no drawer or cupboard space within that base ... then, hand on heart, tell me it is impossible to conceal an object underneath a divan base.

The pic provided is not Madeleine's bed or her bedroom, of course. The window is in the wrong place. There's no pic of the beds in 5A except the ones in the main bedroom. Are they divans? Would all the beds be the same? I don't know.

[stephen25000]

Do members imagine that a divan base is a solid object?  It is not. It is just a platform to put a mattress on.  I can give the assurance that it is perfectly possible for an individual to conceal mountains of debris under one.  My son managed to with very little effort every time I insisted he tidied his room.
I purchased a divan bed for him specifically to prevent him putting things under the bed ... the divan didn't hinder him in the slightest.

Imagine there is no drawer or cupboard space within that base ... then, hand on heart, tell me it is impossible to conceal an object underneath a divan base.

So Brietta, where is the draw in the photograph ?

[Benice]

12-Processos, Vol 12 Pages 3281 - 3884

Witness Statement
Date: 17-10-2007
Jose Maria Batista Roque 

Then, while his colleague remained in the hall, and the others were in the living room, the witness went through the entire apartment. He opened all the cupboards in the bedrooms, living room and kitchen and checked under the beds and inside the washing machine. He did not see the fridge.

Thanks for that Brietta.    Saved me the job of finding it for G.    - (I'm useless at searching).