Oprah Winfrey Interview

[Robittybob1]

Now wasn't she out that night?   i rather think she was but please correct me if i am wrong.

Unless it is in her interview on TV but there was nothing about being out in her statement.

[pathfinder73]

Now wasn't she out that night?   i rather think she was but please correct me if i am wrong.

Not according to her statement.

"When asked, she replied that on 3rd May she did not hear any noise from the McCann apartment, not even the opening of doors. She also said that before hearing the shouts she was watching television, as she often stays up late."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

[Robittybob1]

I have read many times on the forum that Mrs Fenn went out on the 3rd so where does this idea come from?

[barrier]

I have read many times on the forum that Mrs Fenn went out on the 3rd so where does this idea come from?

Because reading the forum and reading statements are completely different.

[G-Unit]

I have read many times on the forum that Mrs Fenn went out on the 3rd so where does this idea come from?

I think this means she was out during the evening of 2nd, not 3rd;

She did not have anything to report for the 2nd May, because she was only home at night.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

[Robittybob1]

I think this means she was out during the evening of 2nd, not 3rd;

She did not have anything to report for the 2nd May, because she was only home at night.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAMELA_FENN.htm

Strange because it was the crying at night that was the problem. 

[Robittybob1]

There is a YouTube video where she is saying it is all rubbish what they have written about her.  The blurb to the YT says "But yesterday she broke her silence to say it was "absolute rubbish" she had made any such claims to police. Mrs Fenn said: "I didn't even know that family was in there."" but I have listened to it several time s and I don't hear her saying "I didn't even know that family was in there".  So this appears to be more rubbish.  https://youtu.be/KFHbkbBh5BM?t=71

transcript (not checked but sounds right) "[TRANSCRIPT: 
 
“Honestly, I have... I know nothing. I have been here three months. [She means: ‘This happened three months ago’. Mrs Fenn had lived I Praia da Luz for years]  Until all this happened, I've never spoken to a journalist, they've written rubbish in the newspapers. I've never even uttered a word! I've never (sighing)... it's all rubbish! Please, please, just forget it”. ]
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11939-10-reasons-which-suggest-that-pamela-fenn-did-not-hear-any-child-crying-on-tuesday-1-may-2007

[Robittybob1]

I have read many times on the forum that Mrs Fenn went out on the 3rd so where does this idea come from?

Misty's quote "Mrs Fenn stated that she was out on the Wednesday evening. Rachel was next door, unwell. The Moyes couple arrived on the Wednesday evening - I will have to check to see if there is any record of the arrival time."  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8240.msg410253#msg410253

[Innominate]

There is something else I noticed in the interview.

Gerry: Just yeah, so I went outside and I was outside the apartment and I met err one of the other guests and he was coming the other way with his kid and I actually crossed the road to erm to chat to him and we were sort of chatting for about five minutes and during that, Jane went to check on her children and it was at that point she was just passed us going up to the corner and she saw a man carrying a young girl with almo.. she described independently the pyjamas that Madeleine had on and she didn’t see the child’s face she didn’t you know she saw me there she’d seen that I’d just been in the apartment and so she at the time she thought it was something odd but it didn’t raise enough alarm bells to challenge the person or anything

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I've listened to the interview, and I think he was going to say 'almost', i.e. almost the same pyjamas.

It is probably not a major issue, but if there was some doubt about the Tanner sighting I'm surprised he did not also take the opportunity to mention the Smith sighting, which I cannot find in the transcript (unless I've overlooked it).

There may have been time limits for the programme which limited the opportunity to discuss sightings.

[G-Unit]

There is something else I noticed in the interview.

Gerry: Just yeah, so I went outside and I was outside the apartment and I met err one of the other guests and he was coming the other way with his kid and I actually crossed the road to erm to chat to him and we were sort of chatting for about five minutes and during that, Jane went to check on her children and it was at that point she was just passed us going up to the corner and she saw a man carrying a young girl with almo.. she described independently the pyjamas that Madeleine had on and she didn’t see the child’s face she didn’t you know she saw me there she’d seen that I’d just been in the apartment and so she at the time she thought it was something odd but it didn’t raise enough alarm bells to challenge the person or anything

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I've listened to the interview, and I think he was going to say 'almost', i.e. almost the same pyjamas.

It is probably not a major issue, but if there was some doubt about the Tanner sighting I'm surprised he did not also take the opportunity to mention the Smith sighting, which I cannot find in the transcript (unless I've overlooked it).

There may have been time limits for the programme which limited the opportunity to discuss sightings.

How did Jane know he'd just left the apartment? She didn't see him leave, so she assumed he had or he told her later that he had. At the time he could have still been on his way to the apartment for all she knew.

[Innominate]

How did Jane know he'd just left the apartment? She didn't see him leave, so she assumed he had or he told her later that he had. At the time he could have still been on his way to the apartment for all she knew.

Pass. I guess she may have made an assumption because of the amount of time G had been gone from the table, which was commented upon in the rogatory interviews; it is not entirely clear how long this check took.

MO seemed to feel, from comments in his rogatory interview, that the 9.05 check was unnecessary because he had just listened at the window of 5A.

I feel JT tried her best in her interviews. I am sure she thought she saw someone carrying a child.

The odd thing about the encounter is that neither GMcC or JW saw JT, but I believe she passed them as she indicated in her statements.

[Brietta]

Pass. I guess she may have made an assumption because of the amount of time G had been gone from the table, which was commented upon in the rogatory interviews; it is not entirely clear how long this check took.

MO seemed to feel, from comments in his rogatory interview, that the 9.05 check was unnecessary because he had just listened at the window of 5A.

I feel JT tried her best in her interviews. I am sure she thought she saw someone carrying a child.

The odd thing about the encounter is that neither GMcC or JW saw JT, but I believe she passed them as she indicated in her statements.

She did not think she saw a man carrying a child ... she most certainly did see a man carrying a child.  Whether that man is the father who DCI Redwood thought was almost certainly the man carrying his child home or whether that man was in the process of abducting Madeleine McCann ... Jane Tanner saw him.

There are many reasons why Gerry and Jes did not see Jane, all of them discussed on the forum, the fact remains she saw them as well as seeing the man walking briskly away from apartment block five.

[Robittybob1]

Pass. I guess she may have made an assumption because of the amount of time G had been gone from the table, which was commented upon in the rogatory interviews; it is not entirely clear how long this check took.

MO seemed to feel, from comments in his rogatory interview, that the 9.05 check was unnecessary because he had just listened at the window of 5A.

I feel JT tried her best in her interviews. I am sure she thought she saw someone carrying a child.

The odd thing about the encounter is that neither GMcC or JW saw JT, but I believe she passed them as she indicated in her statements.

Whatever happens in the past becomes a memory and then is accessed as thought.  But those thoughts memories have different degrees of certainty.  Like what happened the other day, I thought I saw a man but as I got closer I found it was a shadow shaped like a man's torso.  So you change your mind, but for Jane there was nothing else that she could put it down to.  She saw a person carrying a child.

[slartibartfast]

She did not think she saw a man carrying a child ... she most certainly did see a man carrying a child.  Whether that man is the father who DCI Redwood thought was almost certainly the man carrying his child home or whether that man was in the process of abducting Madeleine McCann ... Jane Tanner saw him.

There are many reasons why Gerry and Jes did not see Jane, all of them discussed on the forum, the fact remains she saw them as well as seeing the man walking briskly away from apartment block five.

As a third party we can say JT said she saw a man, we can't state it as a fact, especially given her inability to produce a Photofit.

[G-Unit]

As a third party we can say JT said she saw a man, we can't state it as a fact, especially given her inability to produce a Photofit.

As she didn't see his face it would have been pretty difficult. However......