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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2017, 09:14:20 AM »
A transcript of the SIC news report on 22nd August 2007, two days after she gave her statement;

Honestly, I have... I know nothing. I have been here three months, until all this happened. I've never spoken to a journalist, they've written rubbish in newspapers, I've never even uttered a word! I've never (sighs)... it's all rubbish! Please, please, just forget it.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id331.htm

The video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFHbkbBh5BM
I had just found that transcript and I was about to post it.  Thanks.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2017, 09:16:15 AM »
A transcript of the SIC news report on 22nd August 2007, two days after she gave her statement;

Honestly, I have... I know nothing. I have been here three months, until all this happened. I've never spoken to a journalist, they've written rubbish in newspapers, I've never even uttered a word! I've never (sighs)... it's all rubbish! Please, please, just forget it.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id331.htm

The video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFHbkbBh5BM

This is the sum total of what happened with regard to Mrs. Fenn inso far as I remember  So thanks for that, G-Unit.

I have no idea of what that meant.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2017, 09:43:23 AM »
What she said in her statement even if she got the day wrong is definitely not rubbish. 
"When questioned she said that she never saw any strange person or action before or after the event. She claims however, that a week previously she was the victim of an attempted robbery, which was not successful and neither was anything taken, thinking that the crying of the child could be linked to another attempted robbery in the residence."  Called a robbery here but could well be a burglary.  Other reports say this occurred 3 weeks earlier  but in her statement it occurred "in a week previously" (which in fact could be a week or more).
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2017, 09:44:10 AM »
This is the sum total of what happened with regard to Mrs. Fenn inso far as I remember  So thanks for that, G-Unit.

I have no idea of what that meant.

It seems like a 'friend' may have spoken to the UK media, so reporters went after her for clarification. She made it clear that she hadn't spoken to the media and that at least come of what they were saying was 'rubbish'.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2017, 09:46:20 AM »
I don't think Mrs Fenn was having senior moments.  I think this feisty lady would have been less than thrilled by the furore which accompanied the release of her belated confidential police statement - made four months after the event - into the public domain.

Which makes one wonder ... why the delay in interviewing her?
She was a material witness who lived directly above 5A ... but the police asked her nothing.  Extraordinary, in my opinion.

Mrs Fenn's son put on record "Gerry McCann did come up to apologise to my mother for all the unwanted attention – which was incredibly kind as he has endured a grief and pain that no parent should ever have to withstand.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/8469932/Madeleine-McCann-time-to-forget.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2017, 09:50:30 AM »
Pamela Fenn seems to get her dates wrong and makes confusing statements in a TV interview.

Robittybob, it is conventional to give a little more information with such a claim, one line intro's are unacceptable.  You must include evidence or cites with your post otherwise there can be no basis for an informed discussion.

Please add some substance to your intro/op otherwise this thread will be deleted.

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« Last Edit: June 19, 2017, 09:54:28 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Innominate

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2017, 09:52:38 AM »
Which makes one wonder ... why the delay in interviewing her?
She was a material witness who lived directly above 5A ... but the police asked her nothing.  Extraordinary, in my opinion.

Totally agree - absolutely extraordinary.

The PJ could have also checked her phone records to check whether the phone call was made to her friend to help pin down the date. I do not believe there is a record in files that this was done.

One of the explanations of the crying incident is that an potential abductor tried previously - this is certainly what KMcC appears to believe, if I understand it correctly.

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Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2017, 09:55:31 AM »
Robittybob, it is conventional to give a little more information with such a claim, one line intro's are unacceptable.  You must include evidence or cites with your opening post otherwise there can be no basis for an informed discussion.

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I concur.

Also, of course, for obvious reasons, she can't reply.

Offline John

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2017, 09:57:06 AM »
Totally agree - absolutely extraordinary.

The PJ could have also checked her phone records to check whether the phone call was made to her friend to help pin down the date. I do not believe there is a record in files that this was done.

One of the explanations of the crying incident is that an potential abductor tried previously - this is certainly what KMcC appears to believe, if I understand it correctly.

Many of these sneak thieves are familiar with the territory upon which they prey but they also 'case the joints' to ensure they can get in and out easily without attracting the attention of security etc.   It is not therefore beyond the realms of possibility that some such character tried the shutter on a previous night to ensure that it was capable of being opened.  This individual could very well have disturbed the children leaving them agitated.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2017, 10:00:53 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2017, 09:59:49 AM »
It seems like a 'friend' may have spoken to the UK media, so reporters went after her for clarification. She made it clear that she hadn't spoken to the media and that at least come of what they were saying was 'rubbish'.

Yes, absolutely.  It didn't have much to do with Mrs. Fenn's Police Statement.  I felt quite sorry for her.  But she did deal with it quite well under the circumstances.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2017, 10:01:02 AM »
I don't think Mrs Fenn was having senior moments.  I think this feisty lady would have been less than thrilled by the furore which accompanied the release of her belated confidential police statement - made four months after the event - into the public domain.

Which makes one wonder ... why the delay in interviewing her?
She was a material witness who lived directly above 5A ... but the police asked her nothing.  Extraordinary, in my opinion.

Mrs Fenn's son put on record "Gerry McCann did come up to apologise to my mother for all the unwanted attention – which was incredibly kind as he has endured a grief and pain that no parent should ever have to withstand.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/8469932/Madeleine-McCann-time-to-forget.html

Yes.  It was kind.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2017, 10:03:04 AM »
Robittybob, it is conventional to give a little more information with such a claim, one line intro's are unacceptable.  You must include evidence or cites with your post otherwise there can be no basis for an informed discussion.

Please add some substance to your intro/op otherwise this thread will be deleted.

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Sorry.  My fault.  I Approved the Topic.  But I have since asked for Cites.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2017, 10:05:02 AM »
Robittybob, it is conventional to give a little more information with such a claim, one line intro's are unacceptable.  You must include evidence or cites with your post otherwise there can be no basis for an informed discussion.

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OP upgraded John.  There could be other explanations for the apparent discrepancies but we always joke about having "senior moments" ourselves.
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Offline John

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2017, 10:05:12 AM »
Yes, absolutely.  It didn't have much to do with Mrs. Fenn's Police Statement.  I felt quite sorry for her.  But she did deal with it quite well under the circumstances.

I have no doubt she felt much empathy for the parents despite the foul mouthed remark made to her by one of the tapas women on the night Madeleine disappeared. She would have been upset that such a stupid and unnecessary event had occurred right below her own apartment.  I'm also quite sure she became increasingly agitated at the press intrusion.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2017, 10:07:44 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Was Pamela Fenn having senior moments?
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2017, 10:10:11 AM »
I have no doubt she felt much empathy for the parents despite the foul mouthed remark made to her by one of the tapas women on the night Madeleine disappeared. She would have been upset that such a stupid and unnecessary event had occurred right below her own apartment.

I very much doubt that Mrs. Fenn heard the remark.  And nor would she have known how unnecessary it might have been.

It has never struck me as unnecessary, just horrendous bad luck.