Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.

[stephen25000]

They used to be triggered by infrared so it could have been anyone's movement that triggered the light going on, but once it was on she saw movement of the guy's shoe.

So would any passing animal such as a cat.

[Robittybob1]

So would any passing animal such as a cat.

That is right, cat, dog, person.   But not a tree waving in the wind.  For it wasn't movement on its own but movement of the infra red source that triggers the sensor AFAIK.

[misty]

They used to be triggered by infrared so it could have been anyone's movement that triggered the light going on, but once it was on she saw movement of the guy's shoe.

The lights outside the front doors  were operated by a push button according to Rachel.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

....." so the car park was quite dark and then when you actually got, you came down a ramp, or down some steps into the sort of area in front of the apartments and erm you know they were, there were sort of lights, you press a button and they come on for a certain length of time, so you know, you put those on to get to the front door, it wasn't pitch black but I'm not keen on the dark anyway so erm'. "

[sadie]

Where did a man hide so only his feet would be visible from under the foliage?

That photo misty was at the time of the abductioin.

The "rat" incident was at an earlier date and there could well have been trees as shown in my photo then

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PB/back5a10.jpg


We dont know how thw trees were then, do we?

[sadie]

The lights outside the front doors  were operated by a push button according to Rachel.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RACHAEL-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

....." so the car park was quite dark and then when you actually got, you came down a ramp, or down some steps into the sort of area in front of the apartments and erm you know they were, there were sort of lights, you press a button and they come on for a certain length of time, so you know, you put those on to get to the front door, it wasn't pitch black but I'm not keen on the dark anyway so erm'. "

Yep, but I think that she is talking about the open hallway area that the stairs and several of the flats branched off from. 

Is there any sign of a push button outside 5A front door?

[Brietta]

Where were the bushes in 5a in which a grown man could hide?

I think he was in the private garden area.


She left by the front door and in the darkness, by the movement sensitive lights, she saw something move and thought its was a rat.
** ** **
She said that the front door was the main door to enter the apartment, situated at the back.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARGARET_HALL.htm

[Alice Purjorick]

Yeah well look on the positive side.
There was no evidence found of break in or abduction on 3rd May 2007.
What 'appened on other dates is largely irrelevant.

[sadie]

It seems wishful thinking on your part Sadie.

mistys photo shows what it was like immediately after Madekleine vanished

The "rat" incident was previous to that by a good period of time.  Foliage increases at an amazing rate in the western Algarve.

What I am pointing out is that the foliage could have been like in my picture at the time of the rat incident.  We dont know, do we?

[sadie]

I think he was in the private garden area.


She left by the front door and in the darkness, by the movement sensitive lights, she saw something move and thought its was a rat.
** ** **
She said that the front door was the main door to enter the apartment, situated at the back.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARGARET_HALL.htm

Margaret Hall is in a mess with which was the front and which was the back IMO

We all were to begin with if you remember.

She says the main dioor and, imo, that cannot mean patio doors.   Almost certainly she means the Front door.

But in the darkness,  apart from maybe his lower legs, a man would be well hidden by foliage such as I have shown.  Remember Margaret was coming from a lighted araea and looking out into blackness.  It takes time for the eyes to adjust in such circumstances.

[slartibartfast]

mistys photo shows what it was like immediately after Madekleine vanished

The "rat" incident was previous to that by a good period of time.  Foliage increases at an amazing rate in the western Algarve.

What I am pointing out is that the foliage could have been like in my picture at the time of the rat incident.  We dont know, do we?

There again they could have been newly planted.

[Mr Gray]

It seems to me that reported crimes are not always recorded in Portugal

[slartibartfast]

It seems to me that reported crimes are not always recorded in Portugal

Impossible to tell.

[Mr Gray]

Impossible to tell.

It seems none of the cases reported to SY which had been reported to the Portuguese police had been recorded

[ShiningInLuz]

It seems none of the cases reported to SY which had been reported to the Portuguese police had been recorded

Which are they?

[Mr Gray]

Which are they?

Redwood has referred to several
Are you unaware