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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #45 on: July 02, 2017, 11:44:24 AM »
There will always be a cost/benefit element when deciding what to investigate. If the PJ had investigated everything reported to them by the enthusiastic British public, no matter how tenuous the possible connection, Portugal would probably be bankrupt now. I think it's simplistic to suggest that all information is equally valid and worthy of spending time and resources on.
But these two sightings were for lone male in PDL.  I think that it would be fairly likely he was known to the public there.  I don't understand why that would be an expensive exercise to track this person down and see if he had an alibi for 3 May 2007.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #46 on: July 02, 2017, 12:18:55 PM »
But these two sightings were for lone male in PDL.  I think that it would be fairly likely he was known to the public there.  I don't understand why that would be an expensive exercise to track this person down and see if he had an alibi for 3 May 2007.

1. Interview Ms Hall themselves. Cost; flight/accommodation, officer's time.
2. Produce efit of suspect. Cost not known.
3. Find him. How? Lots of officer time involved here.
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Offline jassi

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2017, 12:51:49 PM »
But these two sightings were for lone male in PDL. I think that it would be fairly likely he was known to the public there.  I don't understand why that would be an expensive exercise to track this person down and see if he had an alibi for 3 May 2007.

Why would you think that would be the case ?
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Offline barrier

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2017, 01:07:51 PM »
But these two sightings were for lone male in PDL.  I think that it would be fairly likely he was known to the public there.  I don't understand why that would be an expensive exercise to track this person down and see if he had an alibi for 3 May 2007.

Its seems as if the last 4 arguidos were likely to be known locally,where did that get Grange?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2017, 03:48:39 PM »
Its seems as if the last 4 arguidos were likely to be known locally,where did that get Grange?

Not alot farther than you could kick a lamp post without hurting yourself it would seem.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2017, 02:12:44 AM »
Its seems as if the last 4 arguidos were likely to be known locally,where did that get Grange?
I'm happy with what they did.  In my theory there could have been an attempted burglary, they might have been involved in that but in my theory the burglars don't abduct Madeleine.  So if they deny having anything to do with Madeleine's abduction that is possible, but they might still have been the ones who raised the shutters and opened the window. But unless their finger prints matched there would be no proof.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2017, 02:17:04 AM »
Why would you think that would be the case ?
It is a small local area where everyone knows what others are up to.
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Offline misty

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2017, 02:32:23 AM »
When a child had gone missing & there were reports of people having been seen behaving oddly in the same locale during the previous weeks/months, it beggars belief that the Mills & Hall information was not given the same priority as the Flack/Silence/Tranmer sightings.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2017, 05:30:56 AM »
When a child had gone missing & there were reports of people having been seen behaving oddly in the same locale during the previous weeks/months, it beggars belief that the Mills & Hall information was not given the same priority as the Flack/Silence/Tranmer sightings.

I think you're being unrealistic. The UK police didn't appear to treat either women's information as urgent. The others you mention were near 5A during the right timescale.

Mrs Mills, from Basildon, Essex, contacted Leicestershire police, Mark Warner and the British Embassy in Portugal as soon as she heard Madeleine had gone missing, but again criticised the response, accusing officials of being uninterested.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2017, 08:02:34 AM »
I think you're being unrealistic. The UK police didn't appear to treat either women's information as urgent. The others you mention were near 5A during the right timescale.

Mrs Mills, from Basildon, Essex, contacted Leicestershire police, Mark Warner and the British Embassy in Portugal as soon as she heard Madeleine had gone missing, but again criticised the response, accusing officials of being uninterested.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1550955/Scruffy-man-seen-near-Madeleine-resort.html
An article linked to that one http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550732/Paedophile-abducted-Madeleine-police-say.html had a surprise "Police searching for Madeleine McCann, the British toddler abducted while on holiday in Portugal, fear she has been seized by a paedophile.

Officers have a prime suspect but were last night refusing to release any details, including a sketch, for fear of endangering Madeleine's life.
They believe the girl, whose fourth birthday falls this week, is alive and may be being held no more than three miles from where she was abducted. They fear they are now in a race against time to find Madeleine, known as Maddy, before she is murdered."

Were they already looking for this guy who had been hanging around apartment 5A?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2017, 08:16:35 AM »

I think The Police know who did it, and how, but they don't know where he is, or can't actually prove it, yet.

All in my not so humble opinion, of course.

Offline jassi

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2017, 08:17:07 AM »
It is a small local area where everyone knows what others are up to.

You are assuming that this mystery person is local.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2017, 09:11:06 AM »
I think The Police know who did it, and how, but they don't know where he is, or can't actually prove it, yet.

All in my not so humble opinion, of course.
But isn't that the problem.  When the police "know who did it" but have no proof.   That implies they could be very wrong if that is the case.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Claim there was as a previous attempt at an abduction from 5a.
« Reply #58 on: July 03, 2017, 09:14:03 AM »
You are assuming that this mystery person is local.
I was for it seems to be the same person some weeks apart.  That is just about the definition of a local person.
I'm not saying he was involved with the McCann case but I do believe he needed to have been eliminated ASAP.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2017, 09:18:26 AM »
But isn't that the problem.  When the police "know who did it" but have no proof.   That implies they could be very wrong if that is the case.

That might depend on where Madeleine is and who she is with now.