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Offline Mr Gray

It would be interesting to see how posters see the Charlie Gard situation....I have every sympathy with the parents but it seems its time to let the poor boy go.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/03/donald-trump-offers-help-for-terminally-ill-baby-charlie-gard

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 05:42:57 PM »
I'm praying for a miracle and I've just lit a candle.  Well, you never know.

Offline Brietta

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 06:25:59 PM »
My thoughts and prayers are with this little boy and his family.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 06:31:35 PM »
It would be interesting to see how posters see the Charlie Gard situation....I have every sympathy with the parents but it seems its time to let the poor boy go.

For once I agree with you.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline misty

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 08:04:50 PM »
It would be interesting to see how posters see the Charlie Gard situation....I have every sympathy with the parents but it seems its time to let the poor boy go.

Like Ashya King's parents, why should Charlie's parents have even been forced to take their case to court? It's too late for Charlie now, despite his parents having the means & the will to offer him a glimmer of a chance. I find it so wrong that the State can pick & choose when it wants to override parental rights & responsibilities - which, in this case, guaranteed only one outcome.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 08:19:45 PM »
Like Ashya King's parents, why should Charlie's parents have even been forced to take their case to court? It's too late for Charlie now, despite his parents having the means & the will to offer him a glimmer of a chance. I find it so wrong that the State can pick & choose when it wants to override parental rights & responsibilities - which, in this case, guaranteed only one outcome.
Depends if he can be offered a glimmer of hope or whether his case is totally hopeless

Offline misty

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 08:30:55 PM »
Depends if he can be offered a glimmer of hope or whether his case is totally hopeless

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3318065/arthur-olga-estopinan-arturito-charlie-gard-court-case/

There is a glimmer.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 08:39:57 PM »

I just don't get it.  The money is there and since he is going to die if they do nothing then why not at least try?

Offline misty

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 08:47:43 PM »
I just don't get it.  The money is there and since he is going to die if they do nothing then why not at least try?

The Medical Profession & the State think they know best. Maybe legally they do, but morally? Charlie never got to make a choice.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 08:57:46 PM »

And then there's the time wasted going backwards and forwards to Court where the parents have been denied any rights at all.

The Doctors said this and The Courts said that.  Thank you very much.  Pull the plug.  It's horrific.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 09:15:56 PM »
The Medical Profession & the State think they know best. Maybe legally they do, but morally? Charlie never got to make a choice.

but if Charlie is deaf...blind...severely brain damaged and unable to breathe.......perhaps they do know best

Offline Eleanor

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 09:19:50 PM »
but if Charlie is deaf...blind...severely brain damaged and unable to breathe.......perhaps they do know best

If.

Offline misty

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2017, 09:29:16 PM »
but if Charlie is deaf...blind...severely brain damaged and unable to breathe.......perhaps they do know best

If they know best then why did they treat him in the first place, why keep him on a ventilator? There are many children who suffer all the conditions you have listed but they aren't condemned to die simply because the underlying cause is deemed incurable.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2017, 09:33:51 PM »

I can't help feeling that something could have been done sooner before he deteriorated so far.  There were experimental treatments when he was first diagnosed.
But that's it.  It's incurable.  Don't even bother trying.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Donald Trump offers help for terminally ill baby Charlie Gard.
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2017, 09:38:36 PM »
If they know best then why did they treat him in the first place, why keep him on a ventilator? There are many children who suffer all the conditions you have listed but they aren't condemned to die simply because the underlying cause is deemed incurable.

it seems that when he was born he seemed quite normal but his condition has deteriorated..I would think that the doctors are unable to discuss the case due to confidentality
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