Jeremy Bamber fails in final attempt to force CCRC to review case - 29 Nov 2012

[John]

No problemo, I would rather see people post it as it is.  The blue forum seem to be lacking in reality where Jeremy is concerned, this continual nonsense about new evidence being found has a half life all of its own.  We all know of course that this is all fiction, all in Jeremy's head and basically a load of tosh.  There is no fresh new evidence, there never was any fresh new evidence and there never will be any.    Sad but true!

[John]

NGB doesnt seem very intelligent to me from what I have read. You mean to say that guy is a lawyer??? I cant see Mckay carrying on with the case. He'd be mad.

Sounds like a cross between desperation and exasperation to me Frank?   


...and thanks for the kind words earlier!   

[Tim Invictus]

Very well done to everyone who have participated in the Jeremy Bamber debate.  Those of us who have spent many hours seeking out the facts in this dreadful case have always known that he was guilty.   I will add that had there been the slightest evidence to the contrary I for one would have been very willing to revue my position.  As it is, no such evidence was ever brought to the table with those idiots who have campaigned on his behalf simply resorting to propaganda and lies.

This effectively brings Bambers case to an end in the UK and about time too.  If Bamber had an ounce of decency he would admit his guilt now but somehow I don't think he ever will!

Always remembering the victims in this case.

Nevill Bamber
June Bamber
Sheila Caffell
Daniel Caffell
Nicholas Caffell

      

Well put John and thank you for giving us the forum to voice our support for JUSTICE in the Bamber case. We all knew the judges would do the right thing because we have read the mountain of evidence that proves Bamber guilty time after time! It's not rocket science Bamberettes ... NGB and McKay know damn well he is guilty ... stop looking at 27 year old photos of the angelic Bamber and wishing he was innocent ... he isn't!

Like you John, if there was the slightest doubt in Bamber's guilt I would give Bamber the benefit of that doubt, The bottom line in my opinion is that Sheila wouldn't have done those murders! The bottom line in law and to anyone who applies dispassionate commonsense is that Sheila COULD NOT HAVE COMMITTED THOSE MURDERS!

Another good day for justice just as we expected!

              

[John]

Aunt Agatha reckons the case is political and that the reason Jeremy isn't being freed is that he knows too much??

About what exactly AA, I don't think he even knows what planet he is on any more.   

[puglove]

Aunt Agatha reckons the case is political and that the reason Jeremy isn't being freed is that he knows too much??

About what exactly AA, I don't think he even knows what planet he is on any more.   

Aggie probably has more insight into this case than anyone, and is always a supremely respectful poster. But if Bamber is relying on Sheila shooting herself in the kitchen, then getting up and running upstairs without any bloodflow from a shattered throat, then I'm afraid that theory is f..ked.

[John]

Aunt Agatha reckons the case is political and that the reason Jeremy isn't being freed is that he knows too much??

About what exactly AA, I don't think he even knows what planet he is on any more.   

Aggie probably has more insight into this case than anyone, and is always a supremely respectful poster. But if Bamber is relying on Sheila shooting herself in the kitchen, then getting up and running upstairs without any bloodflow from a shattered throat, then I'm afraid that theory is f..ked.

Jeremy's position would appear to be that Sheila was shot in the kitchen before making her way upstairs and all this before the cops entered the house.  As you have pointed out this would have been impossible given the more than adequate forensic evidence available to us.

[Matthew Wyse]

Aunt Agatha reckons the case is political and that the reason Jeremy isn't being freed is that he knows too much??

About what exactly AA, I don't think he even knows what planet he is on any more.   

Balderdash...political my ass AA. 

You would say that though but you have been taken in like so many before you.

[Sandy]

Aunt Agatha reckons the case is political and that the reason Jeremy isn't being freed is that he knows too much??

About what exactly AA, I don't think he even knows what planet he is on any more.   

Balderdash...political my ass AA. 

You would say that though but you have been taken in like so many before you.

Whats political about Bambers case in any event???    Both the Labour and Tory parties have presided over his imprisonment over the last 27 odd years so it makes little difference.   Every judge who has ever reviewed the case comes up with the same decision.  There have been enquiries and witch hunts but nothing ever changes because it cannot change.  Bottom line is Jeremy Bamber is a murderer.

[Tim Invictus]

AA and Patti (and a couple of others) have always been respectful Bamber supporters and I have no problem with that. In my opinion their logic is based upon wishful thinking but thankfully the law relies upon cold hard facts.

The Bamberettes theories always have an element of police corruption as a garnish but even their professionals like NGB and McKay have to include ridiculous 'ritual cleansing' or 'heating the rifle end in the aga' fairytales to try and make their stories fit! But they can still never explain how Sheila could possibly be unmarked and forensically clean after murdering 4 people, battering her father into submission and shooting herself TWICE!

How did Sheila ritually cleanse herself of the gunshot residue after she shot herself the second time, killing herself instantly? Oh I know, it must have been corrupt/incompetent police and scientists!

The game's up NGB and you know it ... can we now have your honest opinion as to Bamber's guilt or innocence please?



I honestly do not believe NGB and Simon McKay actually believe Bamber is innocent. Has anyone ever seen NGB state Bamber is innocent in his opinion?

[John]

AA and Patti (and a couple of others) have always been respectful Bamber supporters and I have no problem with that. In my opinion their logic is based upon wishful thinking but thankfully the law relies upon cold hard facts.

The Bamberettes theories always have an element of police corruption as a garnish but even their professionals like NGB and McKay have to include ridiculous 'ritual cleansing' or 'heating the rifle end in the aga' fairytales to try and make their stories fit! But they can still never explain how Sheila could possibly be unmarked and forensically clean after murdering 4 people, battering her father into submission and shooting herself TWICE!

How did Sheila ritually cleanse herself of the gunshot residue after she shot herself the second time, killing herself instantly? Oh I know, it must have been corrupt/incompetent police and scientists!

The game's up NGB and you know it ... can we now have your honest opinion as to Bamber's guilt or innocence please?



I honestly do not believe NGB and Simon McKay actually believe Bamber is innocent. Has anyone ever seen NGB state Bamber is innocent in his opinion?

Our sister site justice_forum asked Simon McKay directly on twitter if he thought Bamber was innocent and he refused to answer. He then blocked them.  Says it all!

[John]

I don't think anyone posted this particular article which I came across quite recently.  The comment by Sir John Thomas shown in bold text is quite interesting!



Essex: Family of killer Jeremy Bamber welcome court’s decision.

RELATIVES of killer Jeremy Bamber have welcomed a decision to throw out his latest legal bid to overturn a conviction for murdering five members of his family in Essex 27 years ago.

Bamber, 51, wanted to appeal a refusal by the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), the independent body which investigates possible miscarriages of justice, to refer his case back to the Court of Appeal to be looked at again.

The hearing followed the rejection by a single judge of Bamber’s application for permission to seek judicial review of the CCRC’s decision.

But yesterday his renewed application was refused by Sir John Thomas, president of the Queen’s Bench Division, and Mr Justice Globe.

Bamber is serving a whole life sentence for murdering five relatives in Tolleshunt D’Arcy in 1985.

He has always maintained his innocence and claims his schizophrenic sister Sheila Caffell shot their wealthy parents, June and Neville, and six-year-old children, Daniel and Nicholas, before turning the gun on herself, in a remote farmhouse.

Yesterday his extended family said they were pleased with the High Court’s decision but spoke of the “horrendous” pain they experience each time Bamber has appealed his conviction.

The CCRC’s decision is now the fourth attempt Bamber has tried and failed to get his conviction overturned.

Karen Boutflower, the wife of Bamber’s cousin David, said: “We are pleased with today’s outcome but every time he tries to appeal it’s awful, horrendous for us. It just never goes away.

“I think he does it because he’s got nothing to lose and nothing else to do or think about. But we have no doubt he’s guilty, you only have to read the forensic report to know that.

“Sense is prevailing, there is no new evidence and nothing has changed.”

Sir John, announcing the decision of the court, said that having looked at the approach taken by the CCRC in the case he could not see “any way” in which a challenge could be made to the decision reached.

In a statement posted on his website, Bamber said: “It appears that the threshold for my case to be referred to the Court of Appeal is much higher than in most cases but that doesn’t make me any less innocent.

“The law, it seems, simply does not apply if it assists me in proving that I am wrongly convicted.”

His latest request for an appeal was based on a fresh analysis of three burn marks found on his father and gunshot wounds on his sister.

Commenting on this appeal Mrs Boutflour said: “Killing five members of your family is inhumane and degrading so I think he is in the right place.”


http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/essex_family_of_killer_jeremy_bamber_welcome_court_s_decision_1_1716676

[Tim Invictus]

I don't think anyone posted this particular article which I came across quite recently.  The comment by Sir John Thomas shown in bold text is quite interesting!



Essex: Family of killer Jeremy Bamber welcome court’s decision.

RELATIVES of killer Jeremy Bamber have welcomed a decision to throw out his latest legal bid to overturn a conviction for murdering five members of his family in Essex 27 years ago.

Bamber, 51, wanted to appeal a refusal by the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), the independent body which investigates possible miscarriages of justice, to refer his case back to the Court of Appeal to be looked at again.

The hearing followed the rejection by a single judge of Bamber’s application for permission to seek judicial review of the CCRC’s decision.

But yesterday his renewed application was refused by Sir John Thomas, president of the Queen’s Bench Division, and Mr Justice Globe.

Bamber is serving a whole life sentence for murdering five relatives in Tolleshunt D’Arcy in 1985.

He has always maintained his innocence and claims his schizophrenic sister Sheila Caffell shot their wealthy parents, June and Neville, and six-year-old children, Daniel and Nicholas, before turning the gun on herself, in a remote farmhouse.

Yesterday his extended family said they were pleased with the High Court’s decision but spoke of the “horrendous” pain they experience each time Bamber has appealed his conviction.

The CCRC’s decision is now the fourth attempt Bamber has tried and failed to get his conviction overturned.

Karen Boutflower, the wife of Bamber’s cousin David, said: “We are pleased with today’s outcome but every time he tries to appeal it’s awful, horrendous for us. It just never goes away.

“I think he does it because he’s got nothing to lose and nothing else to do or think about. But we have no doubt he’s guilty, you only have to read the forensic report to know that.

“Sense is prevailing, there is no new evidence and nothing has changed.”

Sir John, announcing the decision of the court, said that having looked at the approach taken by the CCRC in the case he could not see “any way” in which a challenge could be made to the decision reached.

In a statement posted on his website, Bamber said: “It appears that the threshold for my case to be referred to the Court of Appeal is much higher than in most cases but that doesn’t make me any less innocent.

“The law, it seems, simply does not apply if it assists me in proving that I am wrongly convicted.”

His latest request for an appeal was based on a fresh analysis of three burn marks found on his father and gunshot wounds on his sister.

Commenting on this appeal Mrs Boutflour said: “Killing five members of your family is inhumane and degrading so I think he is in the right place.”


http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/essex_family_of_killer_jeremy_bamber_welcome_court_s_decision_1_1716676

Thank's for that John. Even the staunchest Bamberettes must know it's all over now. I hope the relatives had a peaceful Christmas and can rest a little easier now. Whatever cock and bull story McKay tries next will just make him a (an even bigger) laughing stock.

Justice.

 

[Admin]

Yesterday his extended family said they were pleased with the High Court’s decision but spoke of the “horrendous” pain they experience each time Bamber has appealed his conviction.

Karen Boutflour, the wife of Bamber’s cousin David, said:

“We are pleased with today’s outcome but every time he tries to appeal it’s awful, horrendous for us. It just never goes away.

“I think he does it because he’s got nothing to lose and nothing else to do or think about. But we have no doubt he’s guilty, you only have to read the forensic report to know that.

“Sense is prevailing, there is no new evidence and nothing has changed.”

“Killing five members of your family is inhumane and degrading so I think he is in the right place.”

Well said Karen, there isn't a decent person in the country who wouldn't agree with those sentiments.   

We would agree, Dr Vanezis' Report says it all.

[frank50]

The problem is that the Bamberettes dont think its over at all. That's why they are going on about the new claim to the CCRC. I'd be really surprised if Mckay carries on with the case in any capacity. Without him, what are they going to do. I'm sure no other lawyer will touch it with a barge pole.

I don't think anyone posted this particular article which I came across quite recently.  The comment by Sir John Thomas shown in bold text is quite interesting!



Essex: Family of killer Jeremy Bamber welcome court’s decision.

RELATIVES of killer Jeremy Bamber have welcomed a decision to throw out his latest legal bid to overturn a conviction for murdering five members of his family in Essex 27 years ago.

Bamber, 51, wanted to appeal a refusal by the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC), the independent body which investigates possible miscarriages of justice, to refer his case back to the Court of Appeal to be looked at again.

The hearing followed the rejection by a single judge of Bamber’s application for permission to seek judicial review of the CCRC’s decision.

But yesterday his renewed application was refused by Sir John Thomas, president of the Queen’s Bench Division, and Mr Justice Globe.

Bamber is serving a whole life sentence for murdering five relatives in Tolleshunt D’Arcy in 1985.

He has always maintained his innocence and claims his schizophrenic sister Sheila Caffell shot their wealthy parents, June and Neville, and six-year-old children, Daniel and Nicholas, before turning the gun on herself, in a remote farmhouse.

Yesterday his extended family said they were pleased with the High Court’s decision but spoke of the “horrendous” pain they experience each time Bamber has appealed his conviction.

The CCRC’s decision is now the fourth attempt Bamber has tried and failed to get his conviction overturned.

Karen Boutflower, the wife of Bamber’s cousin David, said: “We are pleased with today’s outcome but every time he tries to appeal it’s awful, horrendous for us. It just never goes away.

“I think he does it because he’s got nothing to lose and nothing else to do or think about. But we have no doubt he’s guilty, you only have to read the forensic report to know that.

“Sense is prevailing, there is no new evidence and nothing has changed.”

Sir John, announcing the decision of the court, said that having looked at the approach taken by the CCRC in the case he could not see “any way” in which a challenge could be made to the decision reached.

In a statement posted on his website, Bamber said: “It appears that the threshold for my case to be referred to the Court of Appeal is much higher than in most cases but that doesn’t make me any less innocent.

“The law, it seems, simply does not apply if it assists me in proving that I am wrongly convicted.”

His latest request for an appeal was based on a fresh analysis of three burn marks found on his father and gunshot wounds on his sister.

Commenting on this appeal Mrs Boutflour said: “Killing five members of your family is inhumane and degrading so I think he is in the right place.”


http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/essex_family_of_killer_jeremy_bamber_welcome_court_s_decision_1_1716676

Thank's for that John. Even the staunchest Bamberettes must know it's all over now. I hope the relatives had a peaceful Christmas and can rest a little easier now. Whatever cock and bull story McKay tries next will just make him a (an even bigger) laughing stock.

Justice.

[puglove]

Bamber's case is well and truly at the bottom of the heap now, but there will always be a handful of delusional people who believe in him, Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster, so it doesn't hurt to keep a profile on here to remind them, and anyone new to the case, exactly why his conviction is safe.

And thanks, Mike, for changing tack YET again. As with Ali Bongo and Z, you have undermined any work that you have previously done. More to be pitied than scolded, I suppose.