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Offline John

Should Scotland Yard be compelled to make public the result of Operation Grange?

Ten years on and over £11 million of public money spent on Operation Grange and still nothing of consequence has been announced.  Is it time that Scotland Yard was compelled to divulge what exactly they have learned about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and put the speculation to bed for ever?

Your views please.

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« Last Edit: May 27, 2018, 10:34:24 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline jassi

I don't think we should expect to learn specific details - that's not the British way  (secrecy wherever possible), but certainly an overview of how they came to whatever conclusions they finally come up with would seem in order.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline G-Unit

Normally I would say that the police should be allowed to continue their inquiries without being asked to justify their actions, but this isn't a normal case.

I think the Metropolitan Police could clarify aspects of this case without damaging whatever they are investigating. If they have convincing evidence which excludes the parents and their friends it's cruel to allow the speculation about their involvement to continue.
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Offline John

Normally I would say that the police should be allowed to continue their inquiries without being asked to justify their actions, but this isn't a normal case.

I think the Metropolitan Police could clarify aspects of this case without damaging whatever they are investigating. If they have convincing evidence which excludes the parents and their friends it's cruel to allow the speculation about their involvement to continue.

That is the way I see it.  The investigation has stalled and that in itself is allowing speculation to grow.  Normally a police investigation should be conducted in an atmosphere of utmost secrecy but this is no normal case.  The Met have spent an inordinate sum of money on a single missing child yet have failed to produce anything of significance despite doing so.  They are about to mothball their investigation despite claiming breakthroughs which ultimately became nothing more than damp squids.  I personally think they should reveal what if anything they have learned and let the British public decide what should happen next.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Normally I would say that the police should be allowed to continue their inquiries without being asked to justify their actions, but this isn't a normal case.

I think the Metropolitan Police could clarify aspects of this case without damaging whatever they are investigating. If they have convincing evidence which excludes the parents and their friends it's cruel to allow the speculation about their involvement to continue.

COMM believe there is a massive conspiracy to protect the McCann's by the govt
As does Stephen
Any explanation would therefore be seen as part of that conspiracy
Best not to feed the conspiracy theorists

Offline John

COMM believe there is a massive conspiracy to protect the McCann's by the govt
As does Stephen
Any explanation would therefore be seen as part of that conspiracy
Best not to feed the conspiracy theorists

I believe if SY came clean and revealed everything they have learned about Madeleine's disappearance that it could take the pressure off her parents, always assuming of course that they are as innocent of involvement in her disappearance to the extent that they have always claimed.

Ultimately there are only two scenarios. If she is dead it is unlikely she will ever be found in such a region where the landscape is pockmarked by fissures and underground drains.  The chances of her being alive after ten years of constant publicity around the world must in reality be very small.  Anyone who suggests otherwise is merely kidding themselves.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2017, 02:20:27 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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COMM believe there is a massive conspiracy to protect the McCann's by the govt
As does Stephen
Any explanation would therefore be seen as part of that conspiracy
Best not to feed the conspiracy theorists

Try not to speak for me.

That is goading

Offline Mr Gray

Try not to speak for me.

That is goading

you have stated clearly that you suspect there is a government cover up to protect the mccanns ...im merely repeating what you have already stated...perhaps you could clear up the confusion...do you think the mccanns are being protected.

stephen25000

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you have stated clearly that you suspect there is a government cover up to protect the mccanns ...im merely repeating what you have already stated...perhaps you could clear up the confusion...do you think the mccanns are being protected.

There is no confusion at all.

I said that the McCann's had contact with Prime Ministers and other government ministers, courtesy of their contacts.

That is an indisputable FACT.

Mind you, it hasn't helped them, has it

« Last Edit: July 16, 2017, 02:43:59 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline Mr Gray

I said that the mccanns had conbtact with Prime M

We all know they had contact

Offline G-Unit

COMM believe there is a massive conspiracy to protect the McCann's by the govt
As does Stephen
Any explanation would therefore be seen as part of that conspiracy
Best not to feed the conspiracy theorists

Either OG have evidence ruling out parental/friend involvement or they haven't. If they have it they can silence
all the critics. Refusing to do so means the McCanns and their friends are being left to suffer. How harsh!
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Offline Mr Gray

Either OG have evidence ruling out parental/friend involvement or they haven't. If they have it they can silence
all the critics. Refusing to do so means the McCanns and their friends are being left to suffer. How harsh!

The McCann's are not suspects and are not suffering on that score

Offline Brietta

Were we playing by British rules I doubt very much if as much time would have been allowed to pass without the police saying something publicly.

We are playing to the Portuguese rule book.  Anyone remember Judicial Secrecy Laws?  Anyone recall the song and dance there was back in 2013 when the status of the newly opened investigation was put at risk and the McCanns issued a desperate plea to the media for restraint?

Even the unprecedented? statements from the Portuguese and British chiefs marking Madeleine's decade missing appeared to me to have been jointly discussed and agreed.

To all intents and purposes Scotland Yard are bit players here.  It is a British child who is missing but her case is within Portuguese jurisdiction and they rightly dictate the terms.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Should Scotland Yard be compelled to make public the result of Operation Grange?

Ten years on and over £11 million of public money spent on Operation Grange and still nothing of consequence has been announced.  Is it time that Scotland Yard was compelled to divulge what exactly they have learned about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and put the speculation to bed for ever?

Your views please.

Is it normal practice for the forces of law and order to publicise details of an active case no doubt alerting and benefiting the criminal/s?

I wouldn't have thought so whatever jurisdiction one is in.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Is it normal practice for the forces of law and order to publicise details of an active case no doubt alerting and benefiting the criminal/s?

I wouldn't have thought so whatever jurisdiction one is in.

I am sure that when it is shelved, a FOI request or two will be lodged.

After all, the tax payer is footing the bill.