General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Alfred R Jones]

That's one word for him More intelligent hoaxer than most though.

Intelligent?  That's the first time I've ever heard that word used for him!

[Carana]

It will be interesting to see if  the analysis of  the phone traffic proves to be of any use.

In the end it may not be and a cross may have to be put in those boxes... but until it is thoroughly investigated there's no way of knowing.

[pathfinder73]

Read this article the other day.

The DNA photofit: Amazing breakthrough means police can tell suspect's colour, height and even age – from a tiny speck of blood

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914932/The-DNA-photofit-Amazing-breakthrough-means-police-tell-suspect-s-colour-height-age-tiny-speck-blood.html

[jassi]

Read this article the other day.

The DNA photofit: Amazing breakthrough means police can tell suspect's colour, height and even age – from a tiny speck of blood

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2914932/The-DNA-photofit-Amazing-breakthrough-means-police-tell-suspect-s-colour-height-age-tiny-speck-blood.html

Yes, I saw that and wondered how the technique would handle samples of mixed DNA such as were found in PDL - samples that were too complex to interpret.

[faithlilly]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6286813/find-maddie-fund-dries-up-as-donations-dwindle.html

[misty]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6286813/find-maddie-fund-dries-up-as-donations-dwindle.html

I'm sure it will receive a nice top-up shortly.

[Benice]

You don`t refute my observations about the gist and purpose of your "discussion" then ?

Point out instances all you will..........what the "discussion" all boils down to is what I posted earlier.

That`s what it`s all about isn`t it?

As is the ultimate purpose of all the doggie-woggie threads.

Maybe it`s time to "confront" Mr Grime about your (collective) concerns about his work.

I see you have no explanation as to why there were no alerts in places where it is impossible for any reasonable person to believe that not a drop of blood or any other material capable of being detected by the dogs  - had ever been deposited - over years and years - involving hundreds of people.

I have already 'confronted' M. Grime - in the form of a question elsewhere on this forum.   I am still awaiting his reply.

[ferryman]

I see you have no explanation as to why there were no alerts in places where it is impossible for any reasonable person to believe that not a drop of blood or any other material capable of being detected by the dogs  - had ever been deposited - over years and years - involving hundreds of people.

I have already 'confronted' M. Grime - in the form of a question elsewhere on this forum.   I am still awaiting his reply.

Yes, Anna, way back, produced a fascinating link of all the people (besides Mr Gordon and his shaving cut) who had bled in apartment 5a.

Extraordinary that (apparently) no one else bled in any of the other apartments.

Perhaps not so extraordinary that "inspections" in all the other apartments were whistle-stop; while the inspection of apartment 5a was long-drawn-out and painstaking ....

[Brietta]

Tell me brietta, how you would breatheina car if it was airtight ?

LOL ... so the seal on your car doors is defective too is it?

Tell me Stephen ... how do you keep the elements out when driving ... or do you drive a frame on wheels to get the benefit of the great outdoors?


One of your less erudite questions Stephen ... needs a little thought and polishing up before showing you up when posted.
               

[sadie]

I'm not the one who goes on about the dogs Sadie, unlike peeps like you.

  *&*%£

Do you like being a peep.

It is treatable you know.

 

Nothing wrong with the dogs Stephen

Just some strange weird things that need sorting, like

1)  The incorrect interpretataion of the alerts forensics [by Amaral]
2)  Martin Grime stating that CCat had caused the alert in the cupboard when quite clearly thta was wrong.  Almost certainly the alert was to the papers / folders on top of the counter.  Whose papers/ folders were they?   Who put them there and when ?
3)  Eddie alerting to a "cadavar " scent that was claimed came through an impervious door seal on a car. Elo Elo Elo!
 It was claimed that the key fob was the source of the odour.
4)  The key fob had Gerrys blood on it but some claim it was cadavarine.   Now I met Gerry and I can assure you he is very much alive.

And the list goes on.

There is a whole list of them that others have identified.


It would be good for someone, who is au fait with the other dog alert anomolies, to add them to my list and for us to take screenshots before they possibly vanish.

The dogs, per se, did a good job, but the weird bits need looking at as does the interpretation of forensics and of what the alerts were pointing to.

As you know both Keela and Eddie alert to blood.  Keela does not alert to Cadavar odour, but Eddie does.




Stephen

Please DO NOT deceive. 

I have NEVER knocked the dogs.  THEY did a good job, within their capabilities, which included pig cadavar odour as well as human cadavar odour, blood and other bodily matter

[stephen25000]

Nothing wrong with the dogs Stephen

Just some strange weird things that need sorting, like

1)  The incorrect interpretataion of the alerts forensics [by Amaral]
2)  Martin Grime stating that CCat had caused the alert in the cupboard when quite clearly thta was wrong.  Almost certainly the alert was to the papers / folders on top of the counter.  Whose papers/ folders were they?   Who put them there and when ?
3)  Eddie alerting to a "cadavar " scent that was claimed came through an impervious door seal on a car. Elo Elo Elo!
 It was claimed that the key fob was the source of the odour.
4)  The key fob had Gerrys blood on it but some claim it was cadavarine.   Now I met Gerry and I can assure you he is very much alive.

And the list goes on.

There is a whole list of them that others have identified.


It would be good for someone, who is au fait with the other dog alert anomolies, to add them to my list and for us to take screenshots before they possibly vanish.

The dogs, per se, did a good job, but the weird bits need looking at as does the interpretation of forensics and of what the alerts were pointing to.

As you know both Keela and Eddie alert to blood.  Keela does not alert to Cadavar odour, but Eddie does.




Stephen

Please DO NOT deceive. 

I have NEVER knocked the dogs.  THEY did a good job, within their capabilities, which included pig cadavar odour as well as human cadavar odour, blood and other bodily matter

What happened to the cooked pork sadie ?

You must try harder.

[sadie]

What happened to the cooked pork sadie ?

You must try harder.

Wake up at the back Stephen

Cooked pork IS pig Cadavar.   Didn't you realise that cooked pork was dead pig?

[stephen25000]

Wake up at the back Stephen

Cooked pork IS pig Cadavar.   Didn't you realise that cooked pork was dead pig?

Cooked meat has a different biochemical composition.

Do some research. %£&)**#

[stephen25000]

Wake up at the back Stephen

Cooked pork IS pig Cadavar.   Didn't you realise that cooked pork was dead pig?

P.S. sadie.

A cadaver is a corpse.

It does not refer to being cooked.

[Carew]

I see you have no explanation as to why there were no alerts in places where it is impossible for any reasonable person to believe that not a drop of blood or any other material capable of being detected by the dogs  - had ever been deposited - over years and years - involving hundreds of people.

I have already 'confronted' M. Grime - in the form of a question elsewhere on this forum.   I am still awaiting his reply.

Any such explanation would need to include the reasons why non-stop alerts from start to finish during any investigation everywhere do not occur......despite pork, lavatories, nosebleeds..... and all other residues found in the everyday work of the woofie on duty.

As I said, do we insinuate it`s all down to handler bias, cuing to alert or not to alert , all of which malpractices  are glaringly obvious to those such as yourself ........( The handler doesn`t fool you! It apparently only needs good eyesight and common sense to have him bang to rights.)........

.........or do we accept that you aren`t the expert and request that you stop smearing those who are ?