General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Robittybob1]

Should the media voluntarily refrain from reporting hateful criticism and suspicions of the McCanns?  If they don't refrain should they be forced to stop?

Good questions.

[Alfie]

Should the media voluntarily refrain from reporting hateful criticism and suspicions of the McCanns?  If they don't refrain should they be forced to stop?

I think the tabloid press are behaving mischievously at the moment.  They know that there is still huge public interest in Madeleine McCann and that the name McCann helps to generate website clicks and newspaper sales.  Therefore any opportunity to print anything some two-bit nonentity has to say on the subject is being used to this end.  It enables the media to rehash the unfounded suspicions and hateful opinions  of 10years ago without fear of getting sued if they present them with words of faux outrage and dismay wrapped around the story.   We all know the media has no conscience and that it would quite happily kill the goose that laid the golden egg safe in the knowledge that another goose will be along shortly. 

[stephen25000]

Good questions.

As a reminder Rob. the media, by and large, has been supporting the McCann's for 8 years, and never questioning 'abduction'.

Mind you, Mitchell, never allowed questions about anything other than abduction in press conferences involving the Mccann's.

Has it actually occurred to you, and others, that many members of the press never believed in abduction, and merely toed the line due to threat of libel action from Carter-Ruck ?

[Erngath]

So there seems to be a growing weight of criticism being heaped upon the McCanns shoulders by the media (vicariously, reporting hateful criticsm and suspicions by z-list clebs and two-bit so-called experts) as we approach the 10th anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.  Is the intention to break the McCanns?  To make them crack, push them over the edge, kill them with 10years of mounting opprobrium with the promise of years more to come?  Is that the only way that their detractors can hope to get their  "justice 4 Maddie" and would the early death(s) of one or both parents be seen as some sort of victory by their detractors?

Peraps the fact that the criticism is made by "z-list celebrities" and two-bit so-called experts" will lessen the impact on the McCann family.
I have know idea of what the detractors seek as a victory.
Nothing the detractors have said has had any influence on the progress of the investigation and that will be of comfort to the family.

[Brietta]

As a reminder Rob. the media, by and large, has been supporting the McCann's for 8 years, and never questioning 'abduction'.

Mind you, Mitchell, never allowed questions about anything other than abduction in press conferences involving the Mccann's.

Has it actually occurred to you, and others, that many members of the press never believed in abduction, and merely toed the line due to threat of libel action from Carter-Ruck ?

Oh?
Who are these 'members of the press'?  Any chance of by lines?

[stephen25000]

Peraps the fact that the criticism is made by "z-list celebrities" and two-bit so-called experts" will lessen the impact on the McCann family.
I have know idea of what the detractors seek as a victory.
Nothing the detractors have said has had any influence on the progress of the investigation and that will be of comfort to the family.

You say 'z-list' celebrities. IMO, an accurate description of what the Mccanns tried to become.

As to Moita Flores, he was in the PJ at the time.

As to 'detractors' as you call them, they reflect what many people think about the case, and their taxes are being used in this 'investigation'.

[stephen25000]

Oh?
Who are these 'members of the press'?  Any chance of by lines?

Do you seriously imagine, in a million years, that the Mccann's get undying support from all members of the media ?

[Brietta]

You say 'z-list' celebrities. IMO, an accurate description of what the Mccanns tried to become.

As to Moita Flores, he was in the PJ at the time.

As to 'detractors' as you call them, they reflect what many people think about the case, and their taxes are being used in this 'investigation'.

So the detractors all woke up one morning in a brilliant flash of light which determined their thought processes on the matter ... Hmmmm  &%+((£

So no guidance whatsoever from the organised campaigning sites set up specifically to disseminate misinformation and bile directed towards Madeleine McCann and her family?

How droll.

[Brietta]

Do you seriously imagine, in a million years, that the Mccann's get undying support from all members of the media ?

What a surprise ... yet another completely unsubstantiated assertion making false claims about Madeleine McCann's parents.

If the press had any substantive dirt about the McCanns ... or any connected to them ... they would not nor would they ever have sat on it.  They would have printed and sold papers.  That after all is their raison d'être and it is what they do.

[stephen25000]

So the detractors all woke up one morning in a brilliant flash of light which determined their thought processes on the matter ... Hmmmm  &%+((£

So no guidance whatsoever from the organised campaigning sites set up specifically to disseminate misinformation and bile directed towards Madeleine McCann and her family?

How droll.

It wan't on one morning.

..and what of the sites, where Mccann supporters spew bile towards those who don't believe the McCann's, and attack people such as Amaral, Grime and others who dare question the McCann's ?

Or has that thought never crossed your horizon ?

[G-Unit]

I think the tabloid press are behaving mischievously at the moment.  They know that there is still huge public interest in Madeleine McCann and that the name McCann helps to generate website clicks and newspaper sales.  Therefore any opportunity to print anything some two-bit nonentity has to say on the subject is being used to this end.  It enables the media to rehash the unfounded suspicions and hateful opinions  of 10years ago without fear of getting sued if they present them with words of faux outrage and dismay wrapped around the story.   We all know the media has no conscience and that it would quite happily kill the goose that laid the golden egg safe in the knowledge that another goose will be along shortly.

Although you chose not to answer my questions about control of the media, I'll ask another. You said;

Is the intention to break the McCanns?  To make them crack, push them over the edge, kill them with 10years of mounting opprobrium with the promise of years more to come?

Is that the intention of the media in your honest opinion?

[G-Unit]

Peraps the fact that the criticism is made by "z-list celebrities" and two-bit so-called experts" will lessen the impact on the McCann family.
I have know idea of what the detractors seek as a victory.
Nothing the detractors have said has had any influence on the progress of the investigation and that will be of comfort to the family.

The stories are being instigated by 'celebrities' and reported by the media. The only person introducing 'detractors' into the mix is Alfie. Who they might be he doesn't say. You seem to know who he means though; care to elaborate?

[Alfie]

Although you chose not to answer my questions about control of the media, I'll ask another. You said;

Is the intention to break the McCanns?  To make them crack, push them over the edge, kill them with 10years of mounting opprobrium with the promise of years more to come?

Is that the intention of the media in your honest opinion?

Many's the time I've asked you a question which you have chosen not to answer but I will answer your question.  I don't believe in putting controls on the media, I just wish they were more responsible, I wish in vain of course.  I don't suppose the media collectively sets out to push the McCanns to breaking point but I don't think they care less if the net result of their actions is that one or both of them is pushed too far.  In fact, think of the mileage they could make out of a McCann breakdown, marriage break up, suicide, etc.  So many extra clicks then, more money in the bank!

[Erngath]

The stories are being instigated by 'celebrities' and reported by the media. The only person introducing 'detractors' into the mix is Alfie. Who they might be he doesn't say. You seem to know who he means though; care to elaborate?

I don't know any of the detractors by name, but I assume Alfie meant those who rush to add their nasty comments about the mccanns at each and every opportunity.

[Alfie]

I don't know any of the detractors by name, but I assume Alfie meant those who rush to add their nasty comments about the mccanns at each and every opportunity.

I don't think anyone would dispute the fact that there are a few dozen / hundred McCann detractors (for want of a better word that is proscribed on this forum) who post on social media daily on the subject of the McCanns, be it forums, facebook, twitter.  That's who I'm talking about.  One or two of them post here too, but they have to be more careful about what they say.