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Offline Mr Gray

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2595 on: April 24, 2017, 09:11:58 PM »
Well that is one poster view.

I do have some experience in this area

Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2596 on: April 24, 2017, 09:21:41 PM »
Your memory does not fail you.

No fault of Murat's but a car he hired and originally intended to be included in a (nominal) 'line-up' of 10 vehicles (plus one that was the only one of the slightest interest to humans, the Renault Scenic with the Find Madeleine stickers in the back) became a nominal 'line-up' of 9 (plus one, the only one of real interest to humans, the Renault Scenic with the Find Madeleine stickers in the back).

The reason?

The PJ crashed Robert Murat's hire-car driving it to the garage where the inspection took place.

It wasn't the hire car which they crashed, it was RM's VW Passat.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490341/Madeleine-Bungling-Portuguese-police-crashed-Murats-van.html

*snipped*

Policia Judiciaria inspectors drove the family's Renault Scenic and Mr Murat's van to the police laboratory in Portimao themselves, instead of sealing them off and transporting them on low-loaders.
They could have destroyed a wealth of potential evidence and contaminated minute DNA traces, experts said yesterday.
They even crashed Mr Murat's green Volkswagen Passat on the way. His lawyer said: "The van was scratched all down one side. The damage is not great but nobody has yet paid for the repairs.
"We don't know how the accident happened."

 

Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2597 on: April 24, 2017, 09:39:19 PM »
He called his wife twice.  These calls were double-recorded.

Assuming the first call was at 23.14 that was probably to tell her he was on his way with the GNR, so they clearly arrived at Reception before then because they arrived before he left 5A.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

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« Reply #2598 on: April 24, 2017, 09:55:22 PM »
Assuming the first call was at 23.14 that was probably to tell her he was on his way with the GNR, so they clearly arrived at Reception before then because they arrived before he left 5A.
Situation 1.  Gerry called at 11.14 to say the GNR had arrived.  Gerry called at 11.17 to say they were on their way to 5A

Situation 2,  Gerry called at 11.14 to say he was in OC reception and the GNR had not arrived.  Gerry called at 11.17 to say the GNR had just arrived.

Take your pick.  Neither gets you to GNR at 5A at much before 80 minutes after Kate raised the alarm.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2599 on: April 24, 2017, 10:05:06 PM »
Situation 1.  Gerry called at 11.14 to say the GNR had arrived.  Gerry called at 11.17 to say they were on their way to 5A

Situation 2,  Gerry called at 11.14 to say he was in OC reception and the GNR had not arrived.  Gerry called at 11.17 to say the GNR had just arrived.

Take your pick.  Neither gets you to GNR at 5A at much before 80 minutes after Kate raised the alarm.

There is testimony saying that the GNR arrived at Reception before Gerry left 5A (Silvia). So he was unlikely to be calling Kate at 11.14 to say they had not arrived.
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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2600 on: April 27, 2017, 02:06:15 AM »
There seem to be a plethora of ridiculous stories in the media, as the 10 th year of Madeleine's disappearance nears.

They are shameless money making exercises.

Just read the Sun, in it'so latest.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2601 on: April 27, 2017, 06:06:15 PM »


Ten years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Gonçalo Amaral returns to Praia da Luz to remember everything that happened. A unique report and interview from SÁBADO and CMTV.

He had dinner with a friend after a day's work, when around midnight on May 3, 2007 he received the call that set the course for the following years: an English girl, the daughter of a couple of doctors, had disappeared from the iillage of Praia da Luz. The then chief inspector gave instructions over the phone, then moved to the picket and headed home. At that moment he could not imagine it, but he had just come across the investigation that would end his career, calling him the internet name of "drunk", "womanizing" and "despicable" cop and involving him in a judicial proceeding in which he was asked to pay damages of € 1,200,000. The missing girl was Madeleine McCann.
 
Ten years later, the former coordinator of the Judiciary Police returns to Praia da Luz to relive everything that happened in those days. Gonçalo Amaral also criticizes the persistence of the public prosecution and the government over the British authorities and leaves a clue as to what he believes may have happened to Maddie McCann in an exclusive report, the result of a partnership between SÁBADO and CMTV.

Read the full story in the printed edition of SÁBADO, this Thursday in the stands.

http://www.sabado.pt/portugal/seguranca/detalhe/goncalo-amaral-regressa-a-praia-da-luz


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« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 07:46:42 PM by John »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfie

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2602 on: April 27, 2017, 07:12:46 PM »
Read more here for the evidence of paranoia and conspiracy freakery:

Madeleine McCann detective claims investigation was 'tainted' as soon as it was an 'abduction'
Goncalo Amaral says Portuguese prosecutors felt ‘intimidated by the United Kingdom’ and claims Kate and Gerry McCann were given special treatment by British authorities.

The former Portuguese detective who led the probe into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance a decade ago claims the investigation was tainted as soon as it was deemed an ‘abduction’.

Goncalo Amaral says Portuguese prosecutors felt ‘intimidated by the United Kingdom’ and claims Kate and Gerry McCann were given special treatment by British authorities because they were doctors.

The ex-policeman refuted claims his officers’ probe was shoddy and says interference from the UK hindered the process.

He maintains devastated parents Kate and Gerry were involved in three-year-old Maddie’s disappearance on May 3 2007 in Praia da luz.

The former officer also pointed the finger at the British class system in an interview which will be aired on Portuguese news channel CMTV on Monday.

He told Portuguese magazine Sábado: “They belong to the upper-middle class and the British do not like their doctors to mess up abroad and get convicted for it.”

Retired Amaral, who was removed as head of the probe after criticising British detectives, claimed UK authorities tried to rush the process.

He said: “It is not normal for an ambassador from a foreign country to come to the place to push in the sense that ‘this has to be quick’.

“If the ambassador and even the consul had not appeared, the investigation would have been directed to what is normal - to suspect those who have responsibility for the custody of the child.

“(The) Judiciary, Public Prosecutor’s Office and the government felt intimidated by the United Kingdom.

“The mistake was the statement about the abduction. It was almost a lack of respect to make the decision (that it was an abduction) and to make it public.”

Portuguese detectives said on May 5 2007 - just two days after her disappearance - that they believed she was still alive in the country after being abducted.

Then director of the Policia Judiciaria Guilhermino Encarnacao made the announcement, stating officers were working on the assumption Maddie was being held between 1.8 and 3.1 miles from the resort.

One eyewitness told the Mirror Portuguese police arrived on the scene at the Ocean Club complex some 90 minutes after Madeleine vanished.

Our source also accused police of messing up key witness statements taken in the days after the tragedy.

But Amaral denies Portuguese police made a string of errors, instead accusing British police of trying to ‘protect’ the McCanns.

Amaral said: “When the couple left, the British police who were here to cooperate and help also left. The feeling was that the British police were here to protect the couple.”

Amaral accused Portuguese police of now ‘doing the politically correct’ thing by following Scotland Yard’s lines of enquiry, to ensure they do not compromise relations between the UK and Portugal.

He said: “The management of the Policia Judiciária and the prosecutor himself are doing the politically correct.

“In the United Kingdom and here the direction of the police walked with Scotland Yard. Do not investigate anything that might compromise your parents or friends. It is a mistake.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detective-claims-investigation-10309152
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 07:42:17 PM by John »

Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2603 on: April 28, 2017, 11:30:13 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/exclusive-twice-past-ten-years-thought-found-madeleine-mccann/

By Clarence Mitchell
28 APRIL 2017 • 9:30PM
A former BBC reporter, Clarence Mitchell was appointed to assist Kate and Gerry McCann as their media spokesman following the disappearance of their daughter, Madeleine, in Portugal in 2007. Mitchell now works for a public relations company and continues to assist the McCanns when necessary. Here is his  incredible account of the youngster's disappearance, the police operation to find her and the  subsequent 10 years of anguish....


Twice in the ten years I have worked with the McCanns, I genuinely thought we were within reach of finding their missing daughter, Madeleine.

The first moment came very early on, just weeks after her disappearance on May 3, 2007. I had been sent by the British government to the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz to assist Kate and Gerry in dealing with the already huge media interest. Shortly after I arrived, I started to get phone calls, always at three o’clock in the morning, always the same ghostly man’s voice, repeatedly naming a farm where she was being hidden.

The British police recorded the calls and it turned out there was indeed a farm, fitting his description exactly, near Seville, over the border in Spain. As it was raided, and turned out to look exactly as he had painted it in those calls, I really felt we were on to something. But she wasn’t there, and those tip-offs – like so many others that we received from hoaxers, ransom seekers, conmen and psychics – were never explained.

The second came at the end of 2007. I was now being employed by Kate and Gerry as their press spokesman, and they were back at home in Leicestershire with their twins, Sean and Amelie. Spanish private investigators working on their behalf had found a blonde-haired girl who spoke English in a village in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco. All the information coming back to us suggested heavily that it could be Madeleine, so much so that an aircraft was put on stand-by, with its engines running, waiting to fly to pick her up.

Kate and Gerry sat tight. They had learned by that stage to be sceptical, not to give in to natural hope only for it to be dashed. They preferred to wait until the Moroccan authorities had checked it out. And when they did, it became clear she was not Madeleine.

On the tenth anniversary of her disappearance, I continue to assist Kate and Gerry as required, keeping a weather eye on reports and sightings, such as the “significant lead” that Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said this week that Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange is following up.


Beyond that, rightly, the Metropolitan Police do not go into operational detail publicly. So, wherever this latest lead may take them, be it Portugal or elsewhere, this time around, like Kate and Gerry, I will sit tight and simply let the authorities do their job before getting my hopes up.

I had spent 20 years as a BBC journalist before becoming a civil servant and helping the McCanns. I met Gerry first. It was some two weeks after Madeleine had gone missing, and he had flown back to England to collect some of her belongings and see members of their large, close extended family.

Obviously, he was distressed, but also very rational. As I have subsequently learnt by spending time with the couple at close quarters, Gerry deals with trauma by compartmentalising it and being in control. His emotions, then as now, are poured into what he can do practically to raise awareness of Madeleine’s disappearance.

In Portugal, I found Kate very friendly, grateful for the support I could offer, but already wary of the media attention. Even though she realised that it was invaluable in keeping awareness high, she – more so that Gerry – found it very intrusive.


That was before it turned into something altogether more cruel, with the McCanns becoming widely vilified for making a mistake in the way in which they chose to care for their children on that fateful night in Praia da Luz. They had left them in an unlocked holiday apartment, though still checking on them regularly, because there was no baby-listening service at their complex.

They were always the first to admit their mistake, but what a price they are still paying. God forbid it is a price they may have to pay for the rest of their lives. I was with them, in private, away from the cameras on many occasions, when they were in absolute grief and misery.

For all the doubters, they have never done or said anything at any time that has given me any cause for suspicion that they were anything other than the innocent victims of a dreadful crime. Before that first meeting with Gerry, I was briefed by British police working alongside the Portuguese on the case. They told me then, categorically, that they had “cleared the ground beneath their feet”

In other words, the British authorities believed that Gerry and Kate were categorically not guilty of any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.

Yet the Portuguese police turned against them, naming them as arguido, a technical term conferring certain legal rights that is clumsily and misleadingly translated into English as “suspect”. You can become an arguido over the most minor traffic offence.
By that time, though, I had been called back by the government to London, but Kate and Gerry were ringing me at four in the morning saying: “We’ve been out here in Portugal too long, we’ve been stitched up, we’re about to be arrested, it’s all dreadful.”

Other than being sympathetic, I couldn’t do anything to help them. So when the offer came to work for them full-time, I took it in an instant.

What stands out, looking back over ten years, is the sheer lunacy of the accusations made against them.

There was, for instance, the theory entertained by the Portuguese police that their daughter had somehow been killed accidentally and that they then had used their hire car to remove her body and bury it in a secret location. I was there when the keys to that car were handed over to them, at their apartment; they hired it several weeks after Madeleine had disappeared.

Even if they had already got their daughter’s body out of the holiday apartment and stored it somewhere (a fridge was suggested, ridiculously), the police theory would mean that, in the full view of the world’s media, who were camped on their doorstep around the clock, the McCanns would have had to put her into the boot and then shaken off the ever-present paparazzi to dispose of her. It was as implausible as it was utterly offensive.

Later, in the autumn of 2007, when we were all back in England, a team of Portuguese police officers came to interview me about the times I had ridden in that car with Kate and Gerry. Did I notice any unusual smells in the hire car, they asked? It was beyond laughable. It also revealed, I felt, frightening ineptitude.

By then, a whole, vile cottage industry had grown around the case, with retired police officers who had nothing to do with the investigation appearing on Portuguese TV to suggest, for example, the McCanns had been at a swingers’ party on the night of Madeleine’s disappearance. It all compounded their pain.

Kate, in particular, got deeply angry. There was no shouting, sobbing or throwing things. It was more of a simmering but intense rage that things could be so misrepresented and so blatantly unfair.

Their real fury, though, was that such lazy reporting of wild untruths would actually mislead people and so hinder the search for Madeleine. That was why they took legal action against Gonçalo Amaral, the Portuguese police officer who wrote a very unpleasant book about them after being removed from the investigation. If people in Portugal, or elsewhere, believe the claims of an officer who never interviewed them, then Kate and Gerry feared that the public would simply assume Madeleine was dead and forget her.

The pressure would have broken other couples. Occasionally, I would catch them in tears, or hugging each other. But they seem to have coped. If anything, it has brought them together even more, rather than split them apart.

The McCanns are private people. I have never been privy to their innermost thoughts. It is not that sort of relationship. We haven’t even discussed politics. I am hoping to stand as a Conservative candidate in the forthcoming election, and my flag is blue; theirs, I’ve always believed, is red. It certainly didn’t affect our friendship.

They have thrown themselves into looking after the twins, trying as best to create a home where reminders of Madeleine are all around them, where she is still very much part of the family, and where they can shield Sean and Amelie against this constant gaze that the family is still under.

We have a good understanding with the British media that, until they are 18, the twins should never be photographed, but we can’t always enforce it. A local paper here or a foreign agency photographer there has occasionally managed to include them “by accident” in a photograph at a school sports day or other public event.

Despite the support they have received, there are still bills to pay. Before Madeleine’s disappearance, Kate was a locum GP, but she has never returned to work. Gerry continues as a senior cardiologist. (It is a tiny point, but symbolic of how almost every fact is twisted in this story. Gerry is not a surgeon, as often inaccurately reported. He is the man who keeps you alive and your essential tubes open when you are having your heart operation under the surgeon’s knife.)

Kate and Gerry hate being recognised. When I was with them, we would sometimes walk into a restaurant and the whole place would go quiet as they entered. People are mostly sympathetic. Many just don’t know what to say to them.
Nobody in my experience has ever been bold enough to accuse them of anything unpleasant to their faces. All of the worst, ugly nonsense is online – that Gerry is not Madeleine’s real dad, that paedophilia is somehow involved, that there’s a huge global government conspiracy to cover something up.

One of the most ridiculous and offensive theories I have come across online – and there are many – is that Madeleine had somehow been hidden at the church in Praia da Luz inside a coffin, beneath a body awaiting burial.

I continue to believe Madeleine was abducted for some reason. Kate is sure that, just short of her fourth birthday, Madeleine would not have been capable of wandering out of the apartment, closing the curtains, sliding doors and two small gates behind her.


And so the couple keep her bedroom in Leicestershire ready for her return, with the presents there for all the birthdays and Christmases with them that she has missed. It is very much a family-only place. In all my time in their house, that door has remained shut.

They hope and pray that, wherever she is, Madeleine is being looked after. What sustains them is that there is absolutely no evidence of physical harm coming to her. So they will always believe firmly that it is as logical to think she might be alive as it is illogical to assume the worst.

As told to Peter Stanford

=====================================================================


How curious that the little girl identified as Bushra reportedly spoke English.

Offline Eleanor

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2604 on: April 29, 2017, 12:02:24 AM »

Oh Dear God, does it have to be this dreadful.  Did some very silly little man have nothing better to do than to prematurely decide that women kill their daughters.

It was aways Leonor who killed Joanna.  And it was always Kate who killed Madeleline.

This ghastly man who never managed to prove anything about anything, other than  God knows what.

stephen25000

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Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2605 on: April 29, 2017, 05:50:18 AM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/exclusive-twice-past-ten-years-thought-found-madeleine-mccann/

By Clarence Mitchell
28 APRIL 2017 • 9:30PM
A former BBC reporter, Clarence Mitchell was appointed to assist Kate and Gerry McCann as their media spokesman following the disappearance of their daughter, Madeleine, in Portugal in 2007. Mitchell now works for a public relations company and continues to assist the McCanns when necessary. Here is his  incredible account of the youngster's disappearance, the police operation to find her and the  subsequent 10 years of anguish....


Twice in the ten years I have worked with the McCanns, I genuinely thought we were within reach of finding their missing daughter, Madeleine.

The first moment came very early on, just weeks after her disappearance on May 3, 2007. I had been sent by the British government to the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz to assist Kate and Gerry in dealing with the already huge media interest. Shortly after I arrived, I started to get phone calls, always at three o’clock in the morning, always the same ghostly man’s voice, repeatedly naming a farm where she was being hidden.

The British police recorded the calls and it turned out there was indeed a farm, fitting his description exactly, near Seville, over the border in Spain. As it was raided, and turned out to look exactly as he had painted it in those calls, I really felt we were on to something. But she wasn’t there, and those tip-offs – like so many others that we received from hoaxers, ransom seekers, conmen and psychics – were never explained.

The second came at the end of 2007. I was now being employed by Kate and Gerry as their press spokesman, and they were back at home in Leicestershire with their twins, Sean and Amelie. Spanish private investigators working on their behalf had found a blonde-haired girl who spoke English in a village in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco. All the information coming back to us suggested heavily that it could be Madeleine, so much so that an aircraft was put on stand-by, with its engines running, waiting to fly to pick her up.

Kate and Gerry sat tight. They had learned by that stage to be sceptical, not to give in to natural hope only for it to be dashed. They preferred to wait until the Moroccan authorities had checked it out. And when they did, it became clear she was not Madeleine.

On the tenth anniversary of her disappearance, I continue to assist Kate and Gerry as required, keeping a weather eye on reports and sightings, such as the “significant lead” that Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said this week that Scotland Yard’s Operation Grange is following up.


Beyond that, rightly, the Metropolitan Police do not go into operational detail publicly. So, wherever this latest lead may take them, be it Portugal or elsewhere, this time around, like Kate and Gerry, I will sit tight and simply let the authorities do their job before getting my hopes up.

I had spent 20 years as a BBC journalist before becoming a civil servant and helping the McCanns. I met Gerry first. It was some two weeks after Madeleine had gone missing, and he had flown back to England to collect some of her belongings and see members of their large, close extended family.

Obviously, he was distressed, but also very rational. As I have subsequently learnt by spending time with the couple at close quarters, Gerry deals with trauma by compartmentalising it and being in control. His emotions, then as now, are poured into what he can do practically to raise awareness of Madeleine’s disappearance.

In Portugal, I found Kate very friendly, grateful for the support I could offer, but already wary of the media attention. Even though she realised that it was invaluable in keeping awareness high, she – more so that Gerry – found it very intrusive.


That was before it turned into something altogether more cruel, with the McCanns becoming widely vilified for making a mistake in the way in which they chose to care for their children on that fateful night in Praia da Luz. They had left them in an unlocked holiday apartment, though still checking on them regularly, because there was no baby-listening service at their complex.

They were always the first to admit their mistake, but what a price they are still paying. God forbid it is a price they may have to pay for the rest of their lives. I was with them, in private, away from the cameras on many occasions, when they were in absolute grief and misery.

For all the doubters, they have never done or said anything at any time that has given me any cause for suspicion that they were anything other than the innocent victims of a dreadful crime. Before that first meeting with Gerry, I was briefed by British police working alongside the Portuguese on the case. They told me then, categorically, that they had “cleared the ground beneath their feet”

In other words, the British authorities believed that Gerry and Kate were categorically not guilty of any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.

Yet the Portuguese police turned against them, naming them as arguido, a technical term conferring certain legal rights that is clumsily and misleadingly translated into English as “suspect”. You can become an arguido over the most minor traffic offence.
By that time, though, I had been called back by the government to London, but Kate and Gerry were ringing me at four in the morning saying: “We’ve been out here in Portugal too long, we’ve been stitched up, we’re about to be arrested, it’s all dreadful.”

Other than being sympathetic, I couldn’t do anything to help them. So when the offer came to work for them full-time, I took it in an instant.

What stands out, looking back over ten years, is the sheer lunacy of the accusations made against them.

There was, for instance, the theory entertained by the Portuguese police that their daughter had somehow been killed accidentally and that they then had used their hire car to remove her body and bury it in a secret location. I was there when the keys to that car were handed over to them, at their apartment; they hired it several weeks after Madeleine had disappeared.

Even if they had already got their daughter’s body out of the holiday apartment and stored it somewhere (a fridge was suggested, ridiculously), the police theory would mean that, in the full view of the world’s media, who were camped on their doorstep around the clock, the McCanns would have had to put her into the boot and then shaken off the ever-present paparazzi to dispose of her. It was as implausible as it was utterly offensive.

Later, in the autumn of 2007, when we were all back in England, a team of Portuguese police officers came to interview me about the times I had ridden in that car with Kate and Gerry. Did I notice any unusual smells in the hire car, they asked? It was beyond laughable. It also revealed, I felt, frightening ineptitude.

By then, a whole, vile cottage industry had grown around the case, with retired police officers who had nothing to do with the investigation appearing on Portuguese TV to suggest, for example, the McCanns had been at a swingers’ party on the night of Madeleine’s disappearance. It all compounded their pain.

Kate, in particular, got deeply angry. There was no shouting, sobbing or throwing things. It was more of a simmering but intense rage that things could be so misrepresented and so blatantly unfair.

Their real fury, though, was that such lazy reporting of wild untruths would actually mislead people and so hinder the search for Madeleine. That was why they took legal action against Gonçalo Amaral, the Portuguese police officer who wrote a very unpleasant book about them after being removed from the investigation. If people in Portugal, or elsewhere, believe the claims of an officer who never interviewed them, then Kate and Gerry feared that the public would simply assume Madeleine was dead and forget her.

The pressure would have broken other couples. Occasionally, I would catch them in tears, or hugging each other. But they seem to have coped. If anything, it has brought them together even more, rather than split them apart.

The McCanns are private people. I have never been privy to their innermost thoughts. It is not that sort of relationship. We haven’t even discussed politics. I am hoping to stand as a Conservative candidate in the forthcoming election, and my flag is blue; theirs, I’ve always believed, is red. It certainly didn’t affect our friendship.

They have thrown themselves into looking after the twins, trying as best to create a home where reminders of Madeleine are all around them, where she is still very much part of the family, and where they can shield Sean and Amelie against this constant gaze that the family is still under.

We have a good understanding with the British media that, until they are 18, the twins should never be photographed, but we can’t always enforce it. A local paper here or a foreign agency photographer there has occasionally managed to include them “by accident” in a photograph at a school sports day or other public event.

Despite the support they have received, there are still bills to pay. Before Madeleine’s disappearance, Kate was a locum GP, but she has never returned to work. Gerry continues as a senior cardiologist. (It is a tiny point, but symbolic of how almost every fact is twisted in this story. Gerry is not a surgeon, as often inaccurately reported. He is the man who keeps you alive and your essential tubes open when you are having your heart operation under the surgeon’s knife.)

Kate and Gerry hate being recognised. When I was with them, we would sometimes walk into a restaurant and the whole place would go quiet as they entered. People are mostly sympathetic. Many just don’t know what to say to them.
Nobody in my experience has ever been bold enough to accuse them of anything unpleasant to their faces. All of the worst, ugly nonsense is online – that Gerry is not Madeleine’s real dad, that paedophilia is somehow involved, that there’s a huge global government conspiracy to cover something up.

One of the most ridiculous and offensive theories I have come across online – and there are many – is that Madeleine had somehow been hidden at the church in Praia da Luz inside a coffin, beneath a body awaiting burial.

I continue to believe Madeleine was abducted for some reason. Kate is sure that, just short of her fourth birthday, Madeleine would not have been capable of wandering out of the apartment, closing the curtains, sliding doors and two small gates behind her.


And so the couple keep her bedroom in Leicestershire ready for her return, with the presents there for all the birthdays and Christmases with them that she has missed. It is very much a family-only place. In all my time in their house, that door has remained shut.

They hope and pray that, wherever she is, Madeleine is being looked after. What sustains them is that there is absolutely no evidence of physical harm coming to her. So they will always believe firmly that it is as logical to think she might be alive as it is illogical to assume the worst.

As told to Peter Stanford

=====================================================================


How curious that the little girl identified as Bushra reportedly spoke English.

I rarely believe a word he says.


His history in trying to control the 'truth' released through the media  is well known.

A former worker for Blair.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2017, 05:59:37 AM by stephen25000 »

Offline Brietta

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #2606 on: April 29, 2017, 08:12:40 AM »
I rarely believe a word he says.


His history in trying to control the 'truth' released through the media  is well known.

A former worker for Blair.

At least you don't mince your words with total disregard to the mental image you send out to observers.

The effect on a parent of a missing child being convinced that she had been found must be unimaginabe.


" ...  I started to get phone calls, always at three o’clock in the morning, always the same ghostly man’s voice, repeatedly naming a farm where she was being hidden.

The British police recorded the calls and it turned out there was indeed a farm, fitting his description exactly, near Seville, over the border in Spain. As it was raided, and turned out to look exactly as he had painted it
in those calls, I really felt we were on to something. But she wasn’t there, and those tip-offs – like so many others that we received from hoaxers, ransom seekers, conmen and psychics – were never explained." Clarence Mitchell   

Clarence Mitchell was working on behalf of the British people government   to recover a missing British child. 

Unlike the plethora of innuendo and downright lies emanating from the Amaral led death cult anything he says can be substantiated particularly when documented as in this instance by the British police.

Interesting that it was not the Policia Judiciaria who recorded these calls so particularly, even in the early days there was a lot of co-operation going on.
Unfortunately even in the early days, Amaral's theory had already taken over.
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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« Reply #2607 on: April 29, 2017, 08:19:48 AM »
At least you don't mince your words with total disregard to the mental image you send out to observers.

The effect on a parent of a missing child being convinced that she had been found must be unimaginabe.


" ...  I started to get phone calls, always at three o’clock in the morning, always the same ghostly man’s voice, repeatedly naming a farm where she was being hidden.

The British police recorded the calls and it turned out there was indeed a farm, fitting his description exactly, near Seville, over the border in Spain. As it was raided, and turned out to look exactly as he had painted it in those calls, I really felt we were on to something. But she wasn’t there, and those tip-offs – like so many others that we received from hoaxers, ransom seekers, conmen and psychics – were never explained." Clarence Mitchell

Clarence Mitchell was working on behalf of the British people to recover a missing British child. 

Unlike the plethora of innuendo and downright lies emanating from the Amaral led death cult anything he says can be substantiated particularly when documented as in this instance by the British police.

Interesting that it was not the Policia Judiciaria who recorded these calls.

I have total contempt for Mitchell, and I am far being the only person who views him that way.

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« Reply #2608 on: April 29, 2017, 08:27:57 AM »
I have total contempt for Mitchell, and I am far being the only person who views him that way.

There is a coterie which shows contempt for anyone and anything with a positive outlook on Madeleine McCann ... even ridiculing on occasion those who express the hope she may be alive.

Don't you think that ten years into such self destructive venom ... ENOUGH!!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfie

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« Reply #2609 on: April 29, 2017, 08:29:27 AM »
Clarence comes across as thoroughly honest and decent in that piece, which is sure to generate a huge wealth of scorn and vitriol today, oh Faithlilly, where are yooooou?