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Offline Holly Goodhead

Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« on: November 29, 2017, 09:04:30 PM »
David we don't have FE's WS's here any chance you can upload?  Thanks in anticipation. 

 

 

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 09:07:56 PM »
Interesting post from Sherlock on Blue:

My own opinion is that Freddie was probably a bad sort.

There are 3 very real possibilities.

1) He was a good platonic friend to Sheila - they both used cocaine sometimes and as is common in theses circumstances one of them had to get it when they wanted to take some - it just happened that it was Freddie who got it for them to do together ...

2) Freddie was a good guy and maybe he was hopeful of a proper relationship with Sheila and was taking it slowly hoping something more than friendship might develop - nothing wrong with that if it was the case ...

3) Freddie was looking at using Sheila - let's face it there are men who hang around models trying to introduce them to cocaine for bad reasons - maybe to have sex with them - maybe to turn them into customers for their drugs - and sometimes to addict then to their drugs before then turning them to prostitution - the tactic here would clearly be to build up a large debt and then get them selling their bodies to pay the debt - it is a fact that when this happens that naive girls who do not know the value of drugs may be given for example a couple of thousand pounds worth of drugs but led to believe that the value of the drugs they have consumed is a much higher figure - could this be where the rumours of Sheila's very large drug debts come from ?


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Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 09:23:48 PM »
I have met a few Iranians in the UK and I have found them all to be pleasant genuine people.  When they speak in their native tongue, Persian, it's a lovely sounding language.

NB and June met Freddie (Ermani - Iranian born) and asked him to help in finding an alternative flat for SC and the twins.  To my mind NB sounds wordly.  NB had been a magistrate for many years and used to dealing with criminals and the like.  If Freddie's intentions towards SC were less than honourable would they escape NB's attention?

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 09:46:41 PM »
I've no idea about SC's source of cocaine but I recall Claire Powell referring to an incident whereby the twins attended a children's party; afterwards the friend rang SC in a mad panic concerned the party bags might have contained cocaine.  Assuming there's some truth here where did the friend source the cocaine from?  Freddie the Iranian or was he simply the fall guy?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 04:37:59 PM »
I've no idea about SC's source of cocaine but I recall Claire Powell referring to an incident whereby the twins attended a children's party; afterwards the friend rang SC in a mad panic concerned the party bags might have contained cocaine.  Assuming there's some truth here where did the friend source the cocaine from?  Freddie the Iranian or was he simply the fall guy?

I find it hard to believe that cocaine would end up in children's party bags, I have CP's book but didn't get very far with it. t seemed more drama han substance.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 12:13:27 PM »
I find it hard to believe that cocaine would end up in children's party bags, I have CP's book but didn't get very far with it. t seemed more drama han substance.

Well that's what the author claimed.  I have it in mind sherbet powder getting mixed up with cocaine but I'm not sure if that was the author's claim or my interpretation when party bags were mentioned.  I read the book years ago and threw it out. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2017, 12:30:28 PM »
Well that's what the author claimed.  I have it in mind sherbet powder getting mixed up with cocaine but I'm not sure if that was the author's claim or my interpretation when party bags were mentioned.  I read the book years ago and threw it out.

Oh I don't doubt the claim was made. I have the book, I'll have a look and post the passage. Will try later tonight.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2017, 05:46:12 PM »
Oh I don't doubt the claim was made. I have the book, I'll have a look and post the passage. Will try later tonight.

Thanks.  I wish I hadn't thrown my copy out now but I hate second-hand books and felt compelled to throw it. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 07:08:34 PM »
Thanks.  I wish I hadn't thrown my copy out now but I hate second-hand books and felt compelled to throw it.

Opps! Forgot - will go and look now.

Offline Caroline

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 07:39:51 PM »
Found it ....... but it's different to how you remembered it. It was heroin, not cocaine. It wasn't Sheila who was contacted it was her friend Caroline and it wasn't in the party bags, it went missing from a drawer where the children's party had been held. Seems a bit odd that no one else had been contacted and Caroline doesn't mention the friends name. It could just be an embellishment. Either way, here it is.

This is from Murder At White House Farm by Claire Powell (Page 60 Chapter 4).

This is a recollection from a friend of Sheila's called Caroline (ironically).

"One of the girls had a boyfriend who was the 'Mr Big' of the drug-dealing world in central London. One day they threw a party for their daughter. my kids went and Sheila;s boys went to it. After my kids got home, my girlfriend rang in a panic, asking whether the children had brought home a bag that wasn't theirs. I looked and couldn't find anything. Then she told me that a bag of heroin had gone missing. It had been in an open drawer in the room the children were in. I was outraged. I mean, the kids could have just licked the bag and they would have been dead. I couldn't believe that the woman didn't realise what she had done. She couldn't understand the fuss I was making. I fell out with her over that.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2017, 10:01:03 AM »
Thanks Caroline.

So although I could recall the incident and where I read it most of the finer detail was lost which goes to show how information can be skewed by interpretation and/or memory!  

If there's any truth in the author's claims that SC's friend's boyfriend was a 'Mr Big' of the drug dealing world he may have supplied SC with drugs rather than Freddie.  
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2017, 12:16:43 PM »
Thanks Caroline.

So although I could recall the incident and where I read it most of the finer detail was lost which goes to show how information can be skewed by interpretation and/or memory! 

If there's any truth in the author's claims that SC's friend's boyfriend was a 'Mr Big' of the drug dealing world he may have supplied SC with drugs rather than Freddie. 

Possibly but I thnk it deserves a pinch of salt really.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Freddie : Friend or Foe to SC?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2017, 12:49:02 PM »
Possibly but I thnk it deserves a pinch of salt really.

Well we know the PM showed traces of cannabis in SC's system and she told Dr F she used cocaine in a social context so someone was supplying her. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?