Author Topic: The Smithman e-fits  (Read 137013 times)

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2018, 07:23:33 PM »
Sil claims redwood made a hash of the Smith sighting.... That is opinion not fact.. And against forum rules
You ask SIL "And how did he make a hash of the Smith sighting..?"  So lets see if we get an answer to that?    Do you think "hash" has a meaning something like bad or wrong?   It could mean something like finely analysed and put together correctly.  Just because it is described as a hash doesn't mean it is incorrect.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2018, 07:25:56 PM »
You ask SIL "And how did he make a hash of the Smith sighting..?"  So lets see if we get an answer to that?    Do you think "hash" has a meaning something like bad or wrong?

It's, an English word which means, a mess... So sil has, said redwood made, a mess of the Smith sighting... Which is not true

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2018, 07:29:14 PM »
It's, an English word which means, a mess... So sil has, said redwood made, a mess of the Smith sighting... Which is not true
I gave the dictionary definition and it was "come to agreement on something after lengthy and vigorous discussion."
You and I might have used the word incorrectly.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2018, 07:37:13 PM »
I gave the dictionary definition and it was "come to agreement on something after lengthy and vigorous discussion."
You and I might have used the word incorrectly.
You obviously  don't understand english... Google
To make a hash..
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Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2018, 07:45:26 PM »
Yeah, it makes you wonder why Mitchell was ever employed.

Nope doesn't make me wonder one tiny bit.

What I do wonder is what your reason is for making that statement.  I presume you must have one.  Or just another sentence left hanging in the wind without clarification.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2018, 07:53:20 PM »
Sil claims redwood made a hash of the Smith sighting.... That is opinion not fact.. And against forum rules
As I read the original SIL claims it is a fact in his opinion. You also claim things as fact in your opinion. I have to take it as opinion even if the opinion claims it is a fact.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #66 on: February 18, 2018, 07:53:57 PM »
As I read the original SIL claims it is a fact in his opinion. You also claim things as fact in your opinion. I have to take it as opinion even if the opinion claims it is a fact.

Sil never mentioned opinion

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #67 on: February 18, 2018, 07:56:40 PM »
Woefully adequate?  Is that English?

Precisely why Crimewatch was not aired in Portugal is speculation.  It is a fact it was not.

A hash of the Smith sighting is fact, not IMO.
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A fact... Not opinion according to sil... Total rubbish.. It is, your opinion

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #68 on: February 18, 2018, 07:58:08 PM »
Do you think those in the Operation Grange Team failed to consider the points you have raised?  If so, their professionalism can't be taken for granted in my opinion.

Given that the release of the Policia Judiciaria files have revealed that the PJ dismissed Mr Smith's later identification and we know that HOLMES was programmed to collate all the available information on the case inclusive of the files I am afraid I do not understand why you ask that particular question.

Just a device to question the professionalism of the professionals perhaps?  As it certainly cannot be implied by anything I have posted.
You really have lost me on this one ... in relation to my post, what is it you consider they have failed to do?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #69 on: February 18, 2018, 08:12:18 PM »
I gave the dictionary definition and it was "come to agreement on something after lengthy and vigorous discussion."
You and I might have used the word incorrectly.

Robitty, 'hash' is a colloquialism which means mess.  If one says, "I made a right hash of that!" it just means you've made a right pig's ear or a mess of something.

Dig up central Luz? 
Make another 4 people arguidos, then state they are longer persons of interest?   
Make a hash of the Smith sighting? 
Fail to get Crimewatch 2013 aired in Portugal? 
Since even my blog has a transcript of that in Portuguese, 
DCI Redwood's action may pass your standard but they are woefully inadequate in mine.

In my opinion each and every one of the above sentences, some of which refer to actual events without knowledge of the why or wherefores or the outcomes ... are all opinion ... and should have been referred to as such.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #70 on: February 18, 2018, 08:53:28 PM »
Robitty, 'hash' is a colloquialism which means mess.  If one says, "I made a right hash of that!" it just means you've made a right pig's ear or a mess of something.

Dig up central Luz? 
Make another 4 people arguidos, then state they are longer persons of interest?   
Make a hash of the Smith sighting? 
Fail to get Crimewatch 2013 aired in Portugal? 
Since even my blog has a transcript of that in Portuguese, 
DCI Redwood's action may pass your standard but they are woefully inadequate in mine.

In my opinion each and every one of the above sentences, some of which refer to actual events without knowledge of the why or wherefores or the outcomes ... are all opinion ... and should have been referred to as such.
I took that sentence to mean it was opinion "DCI Redwood's action may pass your standard but they are woefully inadequate in mine", means in his opinion.
But later he says "A hash of the Smith sighting is fact"  and I think he is right about that too.
Can anyone show that it is not a fact?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #71 on: February 18, 2018, 09:01:22 PM »
I took that sentence to mean it was opinion "DCI Redwood's action may pass your standard but they are woefully inadequate in mine", means in his opinion.
But later he says "A hash of the Smith sighting is fact"  and I think he is right about that too.
Can anyone show that it is not a fact?

That's not how the forum works and you should know that

So if I say maddie was, abducted.. It's a fact... Others have to prove me wrong

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2018, 09:04:18 PM »
which ever way the debate goes it must be acknowledged that those efits look very similar to Gerry.

SIL made a few salient  points.

Dig up central Luz? =  some pesky dogs- unreliable ones again no doubt, were sent in...
-to find a loving family of hobbits living underground who 'stole Maddie'
Make another 4 people arguidos, then state they are longer persons of interest?
-to  talk to people who were identified by whom- as people of interest? 
Make a hash of the Smith sighting? 
- they were just following orders
Fail to get Crimewatch 2013 aired in Portugal?
- no munny - they can't control  the all powerful BBC?
 
Since even my blog has a transcript of that in Portuguese, 
DCI Redwood's action may pass your standard but they are woefully inadequate in mine.

whoefully inadequate in  many peoples standard!

But as Barrier reminded us he did say she may not have left the apartment alive. Would a "stranger abductor really remove a dead child he just murdered"?  oh just asking.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2018, 09:07:33 PM »
He at the least never claimed to have an Ace in the hole ... maybe he had heard there was one missing and was helping out ?

How apposite....well sort of.
"Ace In The Hole" a film noir about the power of a dodgy pressman.
It was well worth watching pre 2007 but through the prism of the McCann case it is even more interesting.

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2018, 09:13:31 PM »
Robitty, 'hash' is a colloquialism which means mess.  If one says, "I made a right hash of that!" it just means you've made a right pig's ear or a mess of something.

Dig up central Luz?  FACT
Make another 4 people arguidos, then state they are longer persons of interest?    FACT
Make a hash of the Smith sighting?  * see below
Fail to get Crimewatch 2013 aired in Portugal?  FACT
Since even my blog has a transcript of that in Portuguese,  FACT
DCI Redwood's action may pass your standard but they are woefully inadequate in mine. FACT

In my opinion each and every one of the above sentences, some of which refer to actual events without knowledge of the why or wherefores or the outcomes ... are all opinion ... and should have been referred to as such.
Absolutely not.  There are but 2 points in question.

DCI Redwood's actions may pass your standard - that is for you to tell 'us', not me.  Are they woefully inadequate in mine? Yes.  FACT.

That takes us to the Smith sighting.  You said something along the lines of the e-fits not being worth the paper they were written on.  Basically I agree.  What they tell us is minuscule.  FACT.
What's up, old man?