The Smithman e-fits

[sadie]

The classic example related to the McCann is the issue over whether Angus  Symington is similar to Robert Murat.
Now I saw a statement from Robert Murat expressing how similar they both looked yet others on the forum say they are not similar.

They are not really similar at all, IMO

[sadie]

when you do a post click on the link below "+ Attachments and other options  and then select
choose file and select a photo from you own computer, open it and then post it.

Thankyou, Rob.  I will try that.


Edited to add:
I still cant do it!  There you go, I am a computer functionally illiterate 

[Robittybob1]

so how far did you get?  Is the photo on your computer or on the internet?

[sadie]

so how far did you get?  Is the photo on your computer or on the internet?

Well I aint taking anything from my computer cos I am reliably told that is a way in for viruses, hackers etc.  My last 4 computers were hacked and full of viruses.   They gave up the ghost because of it.

I think this new one (since Christmas) is also being got at and i am not going to do anything to help the destructive process.  Apart from destroying info, it is almost bankrupting us !   Well not quite, but it is a significant extra expence that we cannot afford.

Maybe if I try and do an analysis for you, but without the pictures, you would be kind enough to add the enlargeable pictures in the very next post to keep them close?  That would be good


I cant think why they do not copy through in the quotes.  Other images do generally.

[Robittybob1]

Well I aint taking anything from my computer cos I am reliably told that is a way in for viruses, hackers etc.  My last 4 computers were hacked and full of viruses.   They gave up the ghost because of it.

I think this new one (since Christmas) is also being got at and i am not going to do anything to help the destructive process.  Apart from destroying info, it is almost bankrupting us !   Well not quite, but it is a significant extra expence that we cannot afford.

Maybe if I try and do an analysis for you, but without the pictures, you would add the enlargeable pictures in the very next post to keep them close.  That would be good


I cant think why they do not copy through in the quotes.  Other images do generally.

Those ones are from my computer. that is why they are small.

[Robittybob1]

In the OP I got the photos from the internet but then they are not side by side.  I had to put them side by side then upload them to here

[slartibartfast]

You wouldn't produce an e fit you would give the persons name ...

It depends how insistent those requesting an efit are.

[Robittybob1]

They are not really similar at all, IMO

That is what you always say yet Robert Murat was amazed how alike Angus was to him. 

[G-Unit]

No, you are wrong spammie.   One of Cristovaos photos looks very much like the RH Smithman photo.  That is a fact

However it is not a fact, despite this likeness, that Cristovao is actually Smithman. 

Eleanor never said that Cristovao was Smithman.  Just that he was like Smithman, which is fact.

The fact is that you and Eleanor think Cristovao looks like Smithman. It isn't a fact that he does look like Smithman, it's an opinion. If it were a fact I would agree with you and I don't. 

[Mr Gray]

The fact is that you and Eleanor think Cristovao looks like Smithman. It isn't a fact that he does look like Smithman, it's an opinion. If it were a fact I would agree with you and I don't.

So it's, an opinion Gerry looks like Smith man too

[Wonderfulspam]

No, you are wrong spammie.   One of Cristovaos photos looks very much like the RH Smithman photo.  That is a fact

However it is not a fact, despite this likeness, that Cristovao is actually Smithman. 

Eleanor never said that Cristovao was Smithman.  Just that he was like Smithman, which is fact.

The fact is that you and Eleanor think Cristovao looks like Smithman. It isn't a fact that he does look like Smithman, it's an opinion. If it were a fact I would agree with you and I don't. 

Did IQ's drop suddenly?

I can't quite believe this needs to be explained.... it's retarded.

[Robittybob1]

Definition of opinion  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opinion
1 a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter We asked them for their opinions about the new stadium.
b : approval, esteem I have no great opinion of his work.
2 a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge a person of rigid opinions
b : a generally held view news programs that shape public opinion
3 a : a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert My doctor says that I need an operation, but I'm going to get a second opinion.
b : the formal expression (as by a judge, court, or referee) of the legal reasons and principles upon which a legal decision is based The article discusses the recent Supreme Court opinion.

Definition of fact
1 a : something that has actual existence space exploration is now a fact
b : an actual occurrence prove the fact of damage
2 : a piece of information presented as having objective reality These are the hard facts of the case.
3 : the quality of being actual : actuality a question of fact hinges on evidence
4 : a thing done: such as
a : crime accessory after the fact
b archaic : action
c obsolete : feat
5 archaic : performance, doing
— in fact
: in truth He looks younger, but in fact, he is 60 years old."

"3 : the quality of being actual"
So it maybe possible that an E-fit and a photo are in fact similar.  The similarity being a fact rather than just an opinion. but we would need a way of defining the quality we are assessing.

[slartibartfast]

So it's, an opinion Gerry looks like Smith man too

Of course it is...

[Mr Gray]

No it looks like Gerry. That is a fact.

No it's opinion

[slartibartfast]

Well I aint taking anything from my computer cos I am reliably told that is a way in for viruses, hackers etc.  My last 4 computers were hacked and full of viruses.   They gave up the ghost because of it.

I think this new one (since Christmas) is also being got at and i am not going to do anything to help the destructive process.  Apart from destroying info, it is almost bankrupting us !   Well not quite, but it is a significant extra expence that we cannot afford.

Maybe if I try and do an analysis for you, but without the pictures, you would add the enlargeable pictures in the very next post to keep them close.  That would be good


I cant think why they do not copy through in the quotes.  Other images do generally.

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