The Smithman e-fits

[Robittybob1]

Which Kennedy are you talking about - uncle or benefactor?

Was this the uncle?  "Fund director Brian Kennedy"
From my understanding it was the benefactor Brian Kennedy who recommended Oakley.

[Brietta]

I know that the High Court didn't hand down a decision in the case of the McCanns v The Sunday Times because the case never got to court.

Yeah ... the Sunday Times coughed up "libel damages" out of the goodness of their hearts, issued an apology for libel and paid all the legal fees.

They had no case to defend ... just as you don't. 

[G-Unit]

Yeah ... the Sunday Times coughed up "libel damages" out of the goodness of their hearts, issued an apology for libel and paid all the legal fees.

They had no case to defend ... just as you don't.

They settled out of court. The McCanns have never been awarded a victory in a defamation trial in the UK in my opinion.

Whoever made the decisions about the Smith e-fits it's a fact that they weren't publicised. Posters have suggested there were problems with the evidence because;

The Smiths didn't report their sighting right away.
The e-fits weren't made until over a year after the event.

An e-fit which was publicised in 2009 had even bigger problems;

The man waited two years before reporting his evidence.
His e-fit was done two years after the event.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204605/The-Victoria-Beckham-lookalike-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-asked-tourist-new-daughter.html
 

[Angelo222]

They settled out of court. The McCanns have never been awarded a victory in a defamation trial in the UK in my opinion.

Whoever made the decisions about the Smith e-fits it's a fact that they weren't publicised. Posters have suggested there were problems with the evidence because;

The Smiths didn't report their sighting right away.
The e-fits weren't made until over a year after the event.

An e-fit which was publicised in 2009 had even bigger problems;

The man waited two years before reporting his evidence.
His e-fit was done two years after the event.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1204605/The-Victoria-Beckham-lookalike-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-asked-tourist-new-daughter.html

All very suspicious imo and in no way conducive of what one would expect in what was supposed to be an abduction.  All these delays, secret hidden reports and dodgy private detectives.  😎

[Mr Gray]

All very suspicious imo and in no way conducive of what one would expect in what was supposed to be an abduction.  All these delays, secret hidden reports and dodgy private detectives.  😎

in your opinion...in my opinion...a genuine couple whose child has gone missing and that is exactly what both investigations...UK and portuguese seem to think

[barrier]

.a genuine couple whose child has gone missing and that is exactly what both investigations...UK and portuguese seem to think

They may well do,but after multi millions and 11 yrs,that line of thinking may well be misplaced which is why quite possibly its still ongoing.

[Angelo222]

in your opinion...in my opinion...a genuine couple whose child has gone missing and that is exactly what both investigations...UK and portuguese seem to think

Without wishing to take this thread way  off topic, you have no idea what the police really think unless you are a SY or PJ insider.  I found it extremely interesting that when the Portuguese Supreme Court made their decision and drew special attention to the question of innocence, not one of the police investigating authorities spoke up.

[G-Unit]

in your opinion...in my opinion...a genuine couple whose child has gone missing and that is exactly what both investigations...UK and portuguese seem to think

They must have been very relieved when the experts got involved and publicised the really important e-fits.

[Angelo222]

They must have been very relieved when the experts got involved and publicised the really important e-fits.

Didn't Redwood only find out about the withheld items after the Spanish National Police raided Metodo 3's offices in Barcelona with SY officers (in suits below) tagging along?

[barrier]

Didn't Redwood only find out about the withheld items after the Spanish National Police raided Metodo 3's offices in Barcelona with SY officers (in suits below) tagging along?

Was that info parted voluntary or was an ilor issued?

[slartibartfast]

Yeah ... the Sunday Times coughed up "libel damages" out of the goodness of their hearts, issued an apology for libel and paid all the legal fees.

They had no case to defend ... just as you don't.

Or more accurately, as it was settled out of court, Yeah ... the Sunday Times coughed up “damages" out of the goodness of their hearts, issued an apology and paid all the legal fees.

They had no case to defend ... just as you don't.

[G-Unit]

Didn't Redwood only find out about the withheld items after the Spanish National Police raided Metodo 3's offices in Barcelona with SY officers (in suits below) tagging along?

Carter-Ruck confirmed that the evidence was given to Operation Grange, but didn't say by whom. Exton claimed it was him.

Carter-Ruck said;

The private investigators' report (including the e-fits) was also provided to the Metropolitan Police in 2011 shortly after the Met commenced its review into Madeleine's disappearance.
https://www.carter-ruck.com/images/uploads/documents/McCann-Press_Release-03102014.PDF

The Sunday Times said;

Exton confirmed last week that the fund had silenced his investigators for years after they handed over their controversial findings. He said: “A letter came from their lawyers binding us to the confidentiality of the report.”

He claimed the legal threat had prevented him from handing over the report to Scotland Yard’s fresh investigation, until detectives had obtained written permission from the fund.
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/78oct13/Times_27_10_2013.htm

[Angelo222]

Was that info parted voluntary or was an ilor issued?

I always found it odd that Metodo 3 had to be raided in order to give up their secrets about their involvement in the McCann case. In my opinion, the whole story hasn't yet been revealed because M3 are Spanish while the investigation is Portuguese led with input from the British in the form of the Metropolitan Police. This cross border complication has added to the complexity of the case imo.

[barrier]

I always found it odd that Metodo 3 had to be raided in order to give up their secrets about their involvement in the McCann case. In my opinion, the whole story hasn't yet been revealed because M3 are Spanish while the investigation is Portuguese led with input from the British in the form of the Metropolitan Police. This cross border complication has added to the complexity of the case imo.

I was trying to make out the correlation between a primarily  Portuguese investigation guested by SY turning up in Spain,this could well explain some serious diplomatic work if reports are correct about such things.

[Carana]

Without wishing to take this thread way  off topic, you have no idea what the police really think unless you are a SY or PJ insider.  I found it extremely interesting that when the Portuguese Supreme Court made their decision and drew special attention to the question of innocence, not one of the police investigating authorities spoke up.

Why would they? It was a civil case, related to assertions and conclusions by the initial coordinator of the first few months, apparenntly in exchange for substantial sums of money and who had been whisked off the case.