Author Topic: The Smithman e-fits  (Read 137488 times)

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Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #510 on: February 25, 2018, 05:44:35 PM »
Mr Smith famously is said not to court publicity.  Davel has pointed out that police statements made in good faith are not actionable.
Your comment gels both together Misty, giving one food for thought.

It's also worth bearing in mind that, had the McCanns authorised media publication of efits produced by a family who told the PJ that they could neither produce efits or would recognise the man again, they could have opened themselves up to a libel claim. Should the efit have turned out to be named as an innocent citizen, the McCanns & the press would have been liable for making him appear as the prime suspect in a shelved foreign investigation which had not even sought his identity. It's almost ingenious in the manner it's been played out.

ETA IMO.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #511 on: February 25, 2018, 05:55:02 PM »
The Times were indeed guilty of libelling the McCanns, I have never disputed that but only of suggesting that they had withheld the efits,  nothing else.

I don’t think you could produce the court verdict so not actually true.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #512 on: February 25, 2018, 05:57:00 PM »
It's also worth bearing in mind that, had the McCanns authorised media publication of efits produced by a family who told the PJ that they could neither produce efits or would recognise the man again, they could have opened themselves up to a libel claim. Should the efit have turned out to be named as an innocent citizen, the McCanns & the press would have been liable for making him appear as the prime suspect in a shelved foreign investigation which had not even sought his identity. It's almost ingenious in the manner it's been played out.

ETA IMO.

an appeal to identify someone is not libel. As long as it only in a person they are keen to talk to.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 06:11:27 PM by Eleanor »
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #513 on: February 25, 2018, 06:04:10 PM »
an appeal to identify someone is not libel. As long as it only in a person they are keen to talk to.

like the woman in purple who Heri identiified
« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 06:11:48 PM by Eleanor »

Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #514 on: February 25, 2018, 06:04:38 PM »
an appeal to identify someone is not libel. As long as it only in a person they are keen to talk to.

It is if the appeal is in connection with a criminal matter & the appeal has not been done by the police.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2018, 06:12:08 PM by Eleanor »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #515 on: February 25, 2018, 06:15:54 PM »
What would the legal position be if a member of the public released an e fit and a person suffered severe harassment as a result of it...or at worse committed suicide

Offline Brietta

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #516 on: February 25, 2018, 06:18:24 PM »
I don’t think you could produce the court verdict so not actually true.

                    Oh Dear   *&^^&
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #517 on: February 25, 2018, 06:23:58 PM »
What would the legal position be if a member of the public released an e fit and a person suffered severe harassment as a result of it...or at worse committed suicide

The same as if they had compiled a dossier I suspect.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #518 on: February 25, 2018, 06:26:15 PM »
The same as if they had compiled a dossier I suspect.

no...an e fit that was publiced by the member of the public

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #519 on: February 25, 2018, 06:28:05 PM »
I have no reason to doubt Exton's honesty but cannot comment on the veracity of the content in the final report. Two separate issues IMO.

It would appear that Adrian Gratton, who produced the documentary The McCanns and the Conman, will be revealing the contents of the report soon. That should clarify things.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #520 on: February 25, 2018, 06:28:39 PM »
no...an e fit that was publiced by the member of the public

As was the dossier.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #521 on: February 25, 2018, 06:30:18 PM »
It would appear that Adrian Gratton, who produced the documentary The McCanns and the Conman, will be revealing the contents of the report soon. That should clarify things.

excellent.......weve had poulton and o'doherty

Offline misty

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #522 on: February 25, 2018, 06:34:29 PM »
It would appear that Adrian Gratton, who produced the documentary The McCanns and the Conman, will be revealing the contents of the report soon. That should clarify things.

You think he won't be gagged if CR get wind of that?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #523 on: February 25, 2018, 06:35:34 PM »
excellent.......weve had poulton and o'doherty

O’Doherty’s article gave welcome clarification. Gratton certainly has access to the report. Interesting times ahead.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #524 on: February 25, 2018, 06:36:54 PM »
You think he won't be gagged if CR get wind of that?

Gagged ? Why ? Do you think the report libels the McCanns ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?