Author Topic: The Smithman e-fits  (Read 137417 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #675 on: March 03, 2018, 02:30:43 PM »
By who,according to M brunt back in September Doesnt leave a lot does it?

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-set-to-be-extended-as-police-ask-for-more-funds-11024595

According to Brunt there's a 100% match in the hire car....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #676 on: March 03, 2018, 03:28:41 PM »
And AIMHO Madeleine met a tragic end on the 3rd of May, that that end was covered up and the threads of that deception are being unravelled as we speak.

That posters think that that OG would make the public privy to exactly who they are investigating is ridiculous in the extreme.

At least you realise if there was evidence against the McCann's SY would act on it and there isn't sone ridiculous  cover up...


Just remember that if the case is closed without charges being brought against them

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #677 on: March 03, 2018, 03:32:14 PM »
At least you realise if there was evidence against the McCann's SY would act on it and there isn't sone ridiculous  cover up...


Just remember that if the case is closed without charges being brought against them

It'll just be another cover up, doncha know.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #678 on: March 03, 2018, 03:44:57 PM »
At least you realise if there was evidence against the McCann's SY would act on it and there isn't sone ridiculous  cover up...


Just remember that if the case is closed without charges being brought against them

No cover up and the longer the investigation goes on the better I like it.

Sometimes silence speaks volumes.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #679 on: March 03, 2018, 03:55:49 PM »
SY have said based on the, evidence they believe  maddie was abducted... Something  I've been saying for some years

This evidence could have come in handy during the appeal to the SC, any idea why it wasn't presented?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #680 on: March 03, 2018, 04:22:32 PM »
This evidence could have come in handy during the appeal to the SC, any idea why it wasn't presented?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/

Probably because there is a criminal investigation  going on

Offline jassi

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #681 on: March 03, 2018, 04:25:53 PM »
This evidence could have come in handy during the appeal to the SC, any idea why it wasn't presented?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/

Probably because it is only an opinion, which would have been strongly challenged.
I suspect Rowley would not want to have tried to defend that view in court.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #682 on: March 03, 2018, 04:26:18 PM »
This evidence could have come in handy during the appeal to the SC, any idea why it wasn't presented?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/

The ongoing criminal case notwithstanding:
1) At worst it does not exist.
2) At best it does but is extremely weak.
The timescale is a bit of a giveaway.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #683 on: March 03, 2018, 04:28:24 PM »
The ongoing criminal case notwithstanding:
1) At worst it does not exist.
2) At best it does but is extremely weak.
The timescale is a bit of a giveaway.

The criminal investigation  not withstanding

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #684 on: March 03, 2018, 05:32:44 PM »
Probably because there is a criminal investigation  going on

Would it really have damaged the investigation?

All Redwood or Rowley needed to do was stand up in court & say 'however she left the apartment, it was an abduction, a criminal act by a stranger, this is a fact, your honour'
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #685 on: March 03, 2018, 05:39:47 PM »
Would it really have damaged the investigation?

All Redwood or Rowley needed to do was stand up in court & say 'however she left the apartment, it was an abduction, a criminal act by a stranger, this is a fact, your honour'

Thr Sc didn't call any witnesses.. Your assertion is ridiculous

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #686 on: March 03, 2018, 05:41:23 PM »

Back On Topic.  Deleting if necessary.

Offline Carana

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #687 on: March 03, 2018, 06:18:39 PM »
Would it really have damaged the investigation?

All Redwood or Rowley needed to do was stand up in court & say 'however she left the apartment, it was an abduction, a criminal act by a stranger, this is a fact, your honour'

LOL It would have had to have gone through the HO which would probably have told anyone asking to present an officer to take the stand in a civil trial to b*****r off.

"Amaral's lawyers were also seeking evidence from a British police officer, Detective Sergeant Jose De Freitas, of the Met, who was seconded to Leicestershire police to help with the British end of the investigation."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/jan/12/madeleine-mccann-parents-defamation-book

Trial on book about Maddie without key witness from the English investigation side

A detective sergeant from Scotland Yard invokes "State immunity" and obligation of secrecy on the investigations of the Maddie case in order to refuse to testify tomorrow, Tuesday, at the beginning of the trial that opposes the McCann couple to the former coordinator of the PJ, Gonçalo Amaral.

(...)

The English cop, incidentally with a Portuguese name (José de Freitas), was the liaison officer between the Portuguese and English authorities and the McCann couple.


http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id296.htm

(The link to the original no longer works, so I can't check what is actual translation and what may be commentary.)

Anyway... to get back on topic, I find this link from Alice particularly interesting:
https://www.surrey.police.uk/policies-and-procedures/e-fit-procedure/


Offline Robittybob1

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #688 on: March 03, 2018, 06:41:12 PM »
Nice recovery Carana "Anyway... to get back on topic, I find this link from Alice particularly interesting:
https://www.surrey.police.uk/policies-and-procedures/e-fit-procedure/"

Well can you comment on the link?
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Offline sadie

Re: The Smithman e-fits
« Reply #689 on: March 03, 2018, 07:01:35 PM »
They can afford the worlds best Criminal lawyers and have influence at the highest levels, I am thinking  .... but who knows for certain?

What i am almost 100% certian of, is that the Mccanns have no criminal involvement of any type in Madeleines present position.   Seems that SY agrees with me on this.   

The Mccanns made a simple mistake, which they will sadly regret for the rest of their lives, imo.



The mccanns had the best lawyers - money could buy.

Of course the mccanns had involvement -  they left their children alone,

It wasn't a simple mistake, they were abandoned - not able to look after themselves.

As we know maddie could freely walk round that apartment - knowing she was alone and unprotected.

Left to all the dangers in the dark - you cannot call that a simple mistake.

this simple mistake caused maddie -  god knows unnecessary suffering.

It was tragic the minute they closed that door -  and walked away from there children.

Their decision , their responsibility.

What ever SY  say, there is none - there is no evidence of abduction,

Apart from only -  the word of the mccanns.

Kizzy, you are STILL misquoting me because you have left the first two paragraphs off, completely changing my words in the opposite direction to their actual meaning. 

[I notice that you have left my name off this time but anyone reading would recognise it as my just earlier post.]

You are twisting my words.  Many would find that underhand.

Please amend by adding the two missing  paragraphs to the top of your posts, or at least do me the honour of qualifying it a little by adding    -snipped-   at the beginning

Thank you in anticipation