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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #90 on: February 21, 2018, 12:27:52 PM »
The word "important" is used in this news release.  https://youtu.be/gd_6yxcgAo0
One line there was proven true,  "Her parents insist this hunt will go on" and that was in 2009 and it is 2018 now.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #91 on: February 21, 2018, 02:10:46 PM »
It doesn't look like a gate does it?   Maybe it is a mix up with translation?  Both gate and door translate as porte or portas IIRC.

I think everthing except ocean going big ships could get under there, cos (am I right?) even large yachts can fold their mast down, can't they ?

I dont remember seeing that bridge, but it wouldn't be very noticable except when the bridge was lifted .... just another bridge at other times !


If there is anything in this report that a boat was moored on the Ocean side of the erm gate and if this boat was used to carry madeleine, then as far as i can see the only purpose for mooring it there was .... for a quiet, quick get away as needed.

Personally I find it unlikely that Madeleine would be taken there and more or less dragged for a distance on to that boat.


More likely IMO that she would have been picked up via dinghy and transferred aboard a big boat before sailing off to Barcelona, or Sines maybe.  Probably picked up from that rocky beach with tunnel, cos Smithman was heading that way at the Smiths sighting

Only my thoughts, other thoughts are perfectly valid.  do present them

You would be very lucky to get a small lake yacht under there if closed and yachts do not routinely lower their masts as it is a major operation.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2018, 09:24:25 PM »
Riamar (Double click small image to get larger image.)
Someone might like to comment here as to whether you think a small boat like the one in the pic is large enough to go around the coast of Portugal and Spain.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #93 on: February 21, 2018, 09:45:45 PM »
MADDIE HUNT FOCUSES ON YACHT
A £3MILLION superyacht has become the latest focus in the two-year hunt for Madeleine McCann.
9 AUG 2009UPDATED03:39, 10 FEB 2013

A £3MILLION superyacht has become the latest focus in the two-year hunt for Madeleine McCann.

It was moored at a Spanish marina three days after Maddie vanished when a woman with an Australian accent asked a man: "Are you here to deliver my new daughter?" The luxury boat - named Willpower - is owned by mega-rich Aussie socialite Rhonda Wyllie.

But the 52-year-old is said to be "devastated" by the news and has vowed to do all she can to help investigators.

There is NO suggestion Rhonda - widow of property tycoon Bill Wyllie - is connected to Maddie's disappearance.

Willpower, which is currently for sale, is a 105ft Sunseeker big enough to sleep six guests and carry four crew.

Last night Rhonda's brother Wayne McGrath said: "I have spoken to my sister and she is absolutely devastated.

"She doesn't know anything about this.

"She does go to Spain - she's been there for the last two or three years. But the only reason she goes is to entertain friends."

Wayne added: "She is happy to co-operate with and help any investigation."

The People has learnt most of the crew who have worked on Willpower in recent years have been Australian.

It's believed investigators want to find out all they can about anyone connected to the yacht to rule them out of the probe.

Records show Willpower was at the Port Olimpic marina in Barcelona when a woman - said to look like Posh Spice Victoria Beckham - approached a British man and asked about the child.

It is believed she had mistaken him for a "courier".

A source close to the worldwide Hunt for Maddie said: "Any information the yacht's owners can give would be very helpful."

Willpower is thought to be in the south of France at present.

Madeleine vanished from a Portuguese apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007 - just before her fourth birthday.

She was on holiday with mum Kate, dad Gerry and the couple's twins Sean and Amelie, then aged two.

The children were alseep in the flat while their parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant when Maddie was last seen.

Since then, heart specialist Gerry and GP Kate, of Rothley, Leics, have campaigned tirelessly around the world to find their missing daughter.

A new global appeal was launched in London on Thursday after the possible "Aussie Spice" link came to light.

Kate and Gerry, both 41, have already had more than 600 calls after an E-fit picture of a suspect was released.

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "There has been an overwhelming response.

"Kate and Gerry are very pleased and grateful to people for making such an effort to help them."


But a woman named as a match for the E-fit claims she has not left Australia for years.

Judith Aron, of Glen Iris, Victoria, said: "I'm 53 years old and I certainly don't look like a Spice Girl.

"I'm totally shocked anybody may have thought I have some connection to the case.

"I have been looking after my sick father and I haven't left the country since 2000."

russell.myers@people.co.uk
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/maddie-hunt-focuses-on-yacht-1669058

That bit's easy enough. What was the result ?do you know?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #94 on: February 21, 2018, 10:58:15 PM »
Someone might like to comment here as to whether you think a small boat like the one in the pic is large enough to go around the coast of Portugal and Spain.

If you have a good lifeboat service available...
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #95 on: February 21, 2018, 11:38:58 PM »
If you have a good lifeboat service available...

Failing that wear a Kings Lynn whelk fisherman's ganzie. [from when the whelkers were sail boats].
It is a bit grizzly but the heavy ganzie ensured you went straight down in the event of falling overboard.
In a thing that size you'd struggle to have locker space for much food !
On the night in question hypothermia would have been a consideration too.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #96 on: February 21, 2018, 11:53:16 PM »
Failing that wear a Kings Lynn whelk fisherman's ganzie. [from when the whelkers were sail boats].
It is a bit grizzly but the heavy ganzie ensured you went straight down in the event of falling overboard.
In a thing that size you'd struggle to have locker space for much food !
On the night in question hypothermia would have been a consideration too.
Get food when they refuel.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2018, 08:54:06 AM »

Some people row across The Atlantic.  You don't need a particularly big boat to go to sea

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #98 on: February 22, 2018, 09:17:16 AM »
Some people row across The Atlantic.  You don't need a particularly big boat to go to sea

A lot would depend on the experience  of the skipper

Offline Eleanor

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2018, 09:38:19 AM »
A lot would depend on the experience  of the skipper

It would.  And the weather.  I have been to sea in some very small boats.  And whether it was Sail or Motor.  Both is good.

Offline jassi

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2018, 10:57:52 AM »
"  They went to sea in a Sieve, they did,
   In a Sieve they went to sea:
In spite of all their friends could say,
On a winter’s morn, on a stormy day,
   In a Sieve they went to sea!
And when the Sieve turned round and round,
And every one cried, ‘You’ll all be drowned!’
They called aloud, ‘Our Sieve ain’t big,
But we don’t care a button! we don’t care a fig! "
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Offline G-Unit

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2018, 11:30:23 AM »
The McCann's immediate reaction was to demand the closure of roads, borders, ports and airports. As early as July 2007, however, it was to the shore of PdL to what had become 'her' rocks where Kate went when she wanted to feel close to her daughter.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2018, 11:56:48 AM »
A lot would depend on the experience  of the skipper
You wouldn't want to travel through the night without specialised navigation equipment. 
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #103 on: February 22, 2018, 12:00:03 PM »
The McCann's immediate reaction was to demand the closure of roads, borders, ports and airports. As early as July 2007, however, it was to the shore of PdL to what had become 'her' rocks where Kate went when she wanted to feel close to her daughter.
Would you call that evidence?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could Madeleine have been abducted by boat?
« Reply #104 on: February 22, 2018, 12:02:00 PM »
You wouldn't want to travel through the night without specialised navigation equipment.

I've travelled at night on a34 ft sailing yacht.. With lights and charts... It's part of basic sailing